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Post by Dracula on Jul 30, 2020 15:53:19 GMT -5
Catfish did invent a new term, but it's such a basic ass movie. Anyone who needed to be told that people on the internet might be lying about who they are in 2010 needs their fucking head examined. But is there another movie that tackles that subject matter? The Shop Around the Corner |
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Post by thebtskink on Jul 30, 2020 15:55:03 GMT -5
I move we replace The Fighter with The Town
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Post by Dracula on Jul 30, 2020 15:56:05 GMT -5
Yeah I'm not sure how that even made it in the first place. — — — — [/b] Alright, I got that this isn't anything special cinematically, but the huge comeback this was for David O. Russell. It was a huge hit critically and financially, and O. Russell's follow-ups have been even better and more successful. I also think Russell is an important filmmaker and this is the best chance he has of making the list.[/quote] The Fighter (Meh, wouldn't pick it in a stronger year but it did seem like something of a big boost to a number of the people involved) Well, Fighter is coming up alot. I don't agree, but in this year I guess so. And that's why you need to give these things time before you start judging the most important movies of years. |
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Post by Neverending on Jul 30, 2020 15:58:38 GMT -5
My choices at the time: Alice in Wonderland - You can blame it for all the live-action versions of Disney cartoons that are being made. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Part 1 - You can blame it for every last book of a series being split into two movies. Inception - You can blame it for various memes. Despicable Me - You can blame it for the Minions. Easy A - You can blame it for Emma Stone playing an Asian in Aloha. |
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Post by Neverending on Jul 30, 2020 16:00:57 GMT -5
I move we replace The Fighter with The Town No Boston movies. You already have Good Will Hunting. Anyway, If we’re replacing the Fighter... The obvious answer is Black Swan. It gave birth to A24. |
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Post by PG Cooper on Jul 30, 2020 16:05:13 GMT -5
The Fighter is definitely out and I think Black Swan should definitely be in.
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Post by thebtskink on Jul 30, 2020 16:08:30 GMT -5
I move we replace The Fighter with The Town No Boston movies. You already have Good Will Hunting. Anyway, If we’re replacing the Fighter... The obvious answer is Black Swan. It gave birth to A24. We can have more. Putting a limit on them is dumb. |
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Post by Dracula on Jul 30, 2020 16:14:21 GMT -5
No Boston movies. You already have Good Will Hunting. Anyway, If we’re replacing the Fighter... The obvious answer is Black Swan. It gave birth to A24. We can have more. Putting a limit on them is dumb. There can be more than one Boston movie... but The Town is no good. |
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Post by thebtskink on Jul 30, 2020 16:18:23 GMT -5
I feel like we're all forgetting The Last Airbender from M Night Shyamalan
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Post by PG Cooper on Jul 30, 2020 16:26:43 GMT -5
I feel like we're all forgetting The Last Airbender from M Night Shyamalan Twas his rock bottom and is one of the worst movies of the decade (maybe ever). |
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Jul 30, 2020 16:31:43 GMT -5
The Social Network
Toy Story 3
Inception
Those are absolutes.
Alice in Wonderland, get that shit the fuck out of here. The "revolution" of Disney scrounging their animated classics to turn them into live action to appease stockholders was inevitable, we don't need to reward the test dummy for that.
The Fighter is certainly not an important movie either.
I'll get back to you on what two I'll throw my support behind in a minute. To Letterboxd! *Cue Batman transition music*
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Post by IanTheCool on Jul 30, 2020 16:35:21 GMT -5
I'm good with Black Swan
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Jul 30, 2020 16:50:30 GMT -5
Black Swan is a good choice.
My fifth option is between:
The Town
Incendies
Shutter Island
But to be honest I'm not highly sold on any of those three being important either.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 30, 2020 16:54:42 GMT -5
The "revolution" of Disney scrounging their animated classics to turn them into live action to appease stockholders was inevitable It really wasn't. I think you're forgetting the state of early 2010's Disney. Notorious flops like John Carter and Lone Ranger. |
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Jul 30, 2020 16:57:21 GMT -5
The "revolution" of Disney scrounging their animated classics to turn them into live action to appease stockholders was inevitable It really wasn't. I think you're forgetting the state of early 2010's Disney. Notorious flops like John Carter and Lone Ranger. Those failures might have sped things up, but creatively bankrupt execs at Disney have probably been "having the idea" of turning animated films into live action features for decades now. Let's not act like this was some stroke of genius that Disney had. It's the easiest executive decision to make to milk as much as you can out of established property, and nobody has a larger vault of that than Disney. |
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Post by Neverending on Jul 30, 2020 17:01:45 GMT -5
creatively bankrupt execs at Disney have probably been "having the idea" of turning animated films into live action features for decades now. There was the 1996 101 Dalmations with Glen Close... which didn't lead to anything. |
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jul 30, 2020 17:04:25 GMT -5
I can get behind Black Swan.
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Post by thebtskink on Jul 30, 2020 17:07:26 GMT -5
Avatar started the modern era of whitewashing. Can't discount that.
We dont get Emma stone as a chinese person or Scarlett Johannson as a japanese person without that movie.
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Avatar started the modern era of whitewashing. Can't discount that. Avatar is 2009. |
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Post by PG Cooper on Jul 30, 2020 17:16:09 GMT -5
Alice in Wonderland didn't just remake an old Disney cartoon, it set the precedent that these remakes were gonna address "problematic" elements of their source material and modernize them. So the conflict of the film isn't just a young girl dropped into a surreal nightmare world, but the repressive and limited gendered roles of 19th century England. That leads to Cinderella adding more scenes between her and the Prince to make the romance more legit, Jungle Book making Shere Khan kind of right in being afraid of Mowgli, Beauty and the Beast making Belle "more feminist", Dumbo being a meta-textual critique of Walt Disney himself, Aladdin making Jasmine wanna be the Sultan and not just a Princess, and Lion King embracing the segregation narrative more overtly.
Also like all these movies, the efforts to "modernize" the story are actually way more problematic. In the case of Alice in Wonderland, you have "Victorian England is bad because it forces women into presubscribed roles" but all Alice does in Wonderland is what people tell her to do. All the subsequent live-action remakes have their wokeness backfire in similar ways.
It's a legacy of shit, but a legacy nonetheless.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 30, 2020 17:28:05 GMT -5
Alice in Wonderland didn't just remake an old Disney cartoon, it set the precedent that these remakes were gonna address "problematic" elements of their source material and modernize them. So the conflict of the film isn't just a young girl dropped into a surreal nightmare world, but the repressive and limited gendered roles of 19th century England. That leads to Cinderella adding more scenes between her and the Prince to make the romance more legit, Jungle Book making Shere Khan kind of right in being afraid of Mowgli, Beauty and the Beast making Belle "more feminist", Dumbo being a meta-textual critique of Walt Disney himself, Aladdin making Jasmine wanna be the Sultan and not just a Princess, and Lion King embracing the segregation narrative more overtly. Also like all these movies, the efforts to "modernize" the story are actually way more problematic. In the case of Alice in Wonderland, you have "Victorian England is bad because it forces women into presubscribed roles" but all Alice does in Wonderland is what people tell her to do. All the subsequent live-action remakes have their wokeness backfire in similar ways. It's a legacy of shit, but a legacy nonetheless. Video essay |
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Post by PG Cooper on Jul 30, 2020 17:35:21 GMT -5
Alice in Wonderland didn't just remake an old Disney cartoon, it set the precedent that these remakes were gonna address "problematic" elements of their source material and modernize them. So the conflict of the film isn't just a young girl dropped into a surreal nightmare world, but the repressive and limited gendered roles of 19th century England. That leads to Cinderella adding more scenes between her and the Prince to make the romance more legit, Jungle Book making Shere Khan kind of right in being afraid of Mowgli, Beauty and the Beast making Belle "more feminist", Dumbo being a meta-textual critique of Walt Disney himself, Aladdin making Jasmine wanna be the Sultan and not just a Princess, and Lion King embracing the segregation narrative more overtly. Also like all these movies, the efforts to "modernize" the story are actually way more problematic. In the case of Alice in Wonderland, you have "Victorian England is bad because it forces women into presubscribed roles" but all Alice does in Wonderland is what people tell her to do. All the subsequent live-action remakes have their wokeness backfire in similar ways. It's a legacy of shit, but a legacy nonetheless. Video essay Most of this is cobbled together from already existing video essays. Also I'd rather jam a fork in my balls than rewatch Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland. |
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Post by Neverending on Jul 30, 2020 17:39:28 GMT -5
Most of this is cobbled together from already existing video essays. Also I'd rather jam a fork in my balls than rewatch Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland.  |
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