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Post by frankyt on May 6, 2019 9:57:43 GMT -5
Endgame spoileys just in case you didn't see it yet.
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Post by Fanible on May 6, 2019 11:42:02 GMT -5
Endgame spoileys just in case you didn't see it yet. Hence Tom Holland's warning at the beginning of the trailer.
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Post by 1godzillafan on May 6, 2019 12:47:10 GMT -5
SPOILER ALERT: There are spoilers in this trailer.
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Post by Neverending on May 6, 2019 13:32:39 GMT -5
That trailer is insane.
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Post by Neverending on May 6, 2019 14:40:09 GMT -5
Wyldstaar Dracula PhantomKnight Doomsday PG CooperApparently, starting Friday, this trailer will play AFTER Endgame. Hilarious. Taking a page out of Back to the Future. Also, the wild theory is that Mysterio is Peter Parker from another Spiderverse and he’s using Iron Man/Doctor Strange tech to create the Mysterio persona. Which is funny cause I made that joke like two weeks ago: Spider-Man: Far From Home addresses Jake Gyleenhall is Spider-Man from the universe in which he replaced Tobey Maguire in Spider-Man 2.
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Post by FShuttari on May 7, 2019 2:39:13 GMT -5
My thoughts on the trailer -
Spider-Man: What about Thor? Fury: Off world.
Spider-Man: Captain Marvel? Hill: Unavailable
Spider-Man: Daredevil? Fury: Cancelled.
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Post by Fanible on May 7, 2019 9:05:36 GMT -5
Also, the wild theory is that Mysterio is Peter Parker from another Spiderverse and he’s using Iron Man/Doctor Strange tech to create the Mysterio persona. Hopefully it's something like this, because if it goes the obvious route, I'll be a little disappointed: That Mysterio is just a bad guy pretending to be good, and the one creating all the monsters to begin with.
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Post by thebtskink on May 7, 2019 9:34:15 GMT -5
I mean to be true to the character it needs to be a trick. Just the nature of it would be the surprise.
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Post by 1godzillafan on May 7, 2019 10:05:21 GMT -5
What disappoints Fannible is everything I want to see.
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Post by frankyt on May 7, 2019 10:20:29 GMT -5
Will this do that much better than homecoming? Seems like they are really ramping up the ads for this. Expecting Spiderman to carry the next gen avengers.
Not sure I buy it yet.
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Post by Neverending on May 7, 2019 10:27:32 GMT -5
I mean to be true to the character it needs to be a trick. Just the nature of it would be the surprise. What disappoints Fannible is everything I want to see. But that’s what we all expected from the original trailer: Mysterio creating the Elementals. But if Sony gonna whip out the Spiderverse (and link it to post-Endgame MCU) they gotta make all this more interesting.
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Post by Fanible on May 7, 2019 10:28:45 GMT -5
I would be disappointed because I don't like spoilers and I feel like the trailers have shown too much. If I go into a movie and everything unfolds just as I expect it to leaving me going "Huh, yeah, well... that's what I figured would happen".
Color me intrigued that they might be pushing this towards the multiverse after all, unless that is also just a trick on Mysterio's part.
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Post by 1godzillafan on May 7, 2019 10:56:27 GMT -5
I mean to be true to the character it needs to be a trick. Just the nature of it would be the surprise. What disappoints Fannible is everything I want to see. But that’s what we all expected from the original trailer: Mysterio creating the Elementals. But if Sony gonna whip out the Spiderverse (and link it to post-Endgame MCU) they gotta make all this more interesting. I reject your notion of interesting and demand my safety net.
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Post by Wyldstaar on May 7, 2019 20:42:54 GMT -5
I'm going to do some speculation on this one. There was in fact some sort of cross-dimensional incident that resulted in an alternate version of Mysterio who is a superhero finding himself in the MCU. Hero-Mysterio is technically proficient, successful, great at solving problems and altruistic. If he wants to get back home ASAP, the quickest way to do that is to get some help. Surely the MCU version of himself can lend him a helping hand. Who he finds is a Quentin Beck who's technically proficient, but kind of a loser, prone to blame others for his own problems and selfish. MCU Beck kills Hero-Mysterio in a jealous rage, and steals his suit. Beck becomes Mysterio, and pretends to be the dead alternate version of himself, as that's preferable to his real life.
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Post by Neverending on May 8, 2019 5:01:13 GMT -5
Wyldstaar, get your butt over here. So how would you feel about Scarlet Witch becoming a villain (based on the House of M comic) and changing reality to include X-Men and Fantastic Four. And... maybe... maybe... Mysterio IS a villain and he is from the multi-verse BUT he's a mutant.
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Post by Fanible on May 8, 2019 10:17:54 GMT -5
I would like the idea that a big chunk of everything in the plot could be an illusion as well, including Shield's presence, Fury, Hill, etc. That may or may not include the Chameleon.
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Post by thebtskink on May 8, 2019 13:21:45 GMT -5
It feels like with the end of the last one, and Mysterio here, they're building towards a Sinister Six.
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Post by Wyldstaar on May 10, 2019 8:10:20 GMT -5
Wyldstaar , get your butt over here. So how would you feel about Scarlet Witch becoming a villain (based on the House of M comic) and changing reality to include X-Men and Fantastic Four. And... maybe... maybe... Mysterio IS a villain and he is from the multi-verse BUT he's a mutant. I wouldn't like it. I never really approved of the House of M or No More Mutants. No one character should be able to wield that much power naturally. In the case of the MCU, I don't think it's much of a possibility. The MCU version of Wanda has never displayed reality altering powers, only telepathic and telekinetic abilities. It's possible that additional aspects to her abilities will be displayed at a later time, but even then, probably not to such a radical extent as altering the history of the entire planet. Even when Thanos acquired the Reality Stone on Knowhere, the changes he made all reverted back to normal as soon as he went away. I don't think that any changes to the MCU are necessary to bring the Fantastic Four in. At some point in the 1960's, Reed Richards and Ben Grimm are allowing Reed's grad student Sue and her little brother Johnny to join them aboard their prototype rocket during an engine test. A saboteur from Latveria has reprogrammed the ship's systems to overload the engines during the test. The ship's instruments alert Reed to the problem, and he's able to avert an explosion by launching the ship. As a backup plan, the saboteur has locked the ship's guidance systems towards a spacial anomaly, which grants them all elemental powers and takes them to the Negative Zone. After having a trilogy of adventures there, Reed figures out how to return to the MCU, and the FF find themselves in the year twenty twenty-something. Mysterio is a perfectly good character already. He doesn't need to be a mutant. As for the X-Men and mutantkind in general, that's a tall order. It's going to require a major alteration of the MCU in order to make the slightest bit of sense. While I'm sure he has a few ideas, I doubt Kevin Feige has decided how he's going to do it, yet.
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