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Post by Neverending on Mar 11, 2018 17:05:25 GMT -5
GladiatorWatched 3/10 What got me thinking about Gladiator was a small discussion here about how Best Picture winning movies have changed over the past twenty years or so. In the 90s many of the Oscar caliber movies were big budget spectacles. Dances With Wolves, Schindler's List, Braveheart, Forrest Gump, Titanic, The English Patient, and we'll throw in Saving Private Ryan for good measure (I know, I know). That was less a discussion and more a statement made by me that got eyerolls from Dracula and PG Cooper. Fish Porn is a step in the right direction. Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man. The Matrix Reloaded. The Harry Potter’s. Bryan Singer’s X-Men. Posted by a midget loving clown named Frizzo. I haven’t visited ComingSoon.net or SHH in 4 years.
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Post by Doomsday on Mar 14, 2018 0:50:14 GMT -5
SplitWatched 3/12 I know this type of experience is pretty common but it's still funny to me. Years ago I was in a theater watching a movie, I believe it was the first Expendables if I remember correctly, and a trailer for Devil came on. Towards the end of the scary, spooky trailer the text 'From M. Night Shyamalan' popped up. The entire theater roared with laughter. That story right there is such a good metaphor for the man's career, someone who was given the keys to the kingdom, hailed as the next great filmmaker, and everything just went to hell. To quote the elder Jeffrey Lebowski, 'the goddamn plane crashed into the mountain.' To say I was gun shy before watching Split is the understatement of the century. Why the hell would I want to watch this movie? Now, this is the part where I would start into M. Night but what's the point? What slander could I sling at the guy that hasn't already been said by much more prestigious figures than me? Considering how he got himself to the very top and spent the next fifteen years of his directing career making each subsequent film worse than the one previous, of course I wouldn't be anxious to watch this thing. The last movie of his I watched was The Happening, a movie so offensively, comically, embarrassingly, laughably, extraordinarily terrible that most people would pack up and spend the rest of their lives herding sheep in Mongolia rather than risk being seen in public in the United States again let alone Hollywood. It really is one of the worst movies ever made and I can't see how The Last Airbender or After Earth could be worse although I've heard that's the case which is beyond my comprehension. So I'll admit two things got me to give Split a chance. 1) Several people said it was good, and 2) One of those people was Neverending . Now don't get on your high horse, NE, but if you vouch for a movie then I'll take it seriously. That's why I've been coming to these boards for the better part of twenty years, because I trust all you guys. So back to Split. Split isn't a bad movie by M. Night standards or anyone else's standards either. The real driving force behind the entire thing is James McAvoy's performance. As you could tell from the trailer he has to exhibit several different personalities, from the proper Ms. Patricia with an British accent or 9-year old mischievous Hedwig. McAvoy's performance makes up for a lot of the sillier plot points and stuffy, almost nonsensical dialogue that other Shyamalan movies are choked with. It's a 100% performance driven movie and fortunately that performance eclipses those things that could detract from the overall quality. I will give Shymalan credit though because he certainly does have an eye for a good shot. There are a couple overhead shots down a spiral staircase that set an eerie mood, he uses slow close ups to nice effect and like many other filmmakers he knows when to focus in on the eyes, he's good at that. I also think it's interesting that Shyamalan is choosing to combine this movie with Unbreakable. I only watched Unbreakable when it was in theaters 17 years ago and I don't recall being very fond of it but I know enough to think that this little crossover comes off as a little...desperate? Hey, if I were M. Night Shyamalan I'd feel a little desperate too, but do you know what comes out of desperation? Not giving a shit. And do you know what comes out of not giving a shit? The willingness to take chances and sometimes that's just what an artist needs. Either that or he'll just churn out another movie that's fucking terrible. Place your bets.
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Post by Neverending on Mar 14, 2018 1:03:24 GMT -5
SplitWatched 3/12 Years ago I was in a theater watching a movie, I believe it was the first Expendables if I remember correctly, and a trailer for Devil came on. Towards the end of the scary, spooky trailer the text 'From M. Night Shyamalan' popped up. The entire theater roared with laughter. I remember that. It even made showbiz news. Last Airbender is more offensive. I’m sure Joel Schumacher has made worse movies than Batman & Robin, but that’s the one people will hate him for. Same case here. I don’t know who got more disrespected by the Oscars: James McAvoy or John Goodman for his role in Cloverfield 2.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Mar 16, 2018 0:42:10 GMT -5
Split was a major disappointment. Like you said, if it wasn't for McAvoy's performance it would be a total crap movie. I reluctantly gave it a chance (more I was "rewarded" it by Neverending in the film club) after I swore off M. Night films after The Happening.
He's a terrible writer. All the scenes with the psychiatrist were a joke. He delivers his exposition with no subtlety at all. And where are the twists and turns in the story? The way people championed the film I thought for sure M. Night had reached deep into the well and found at least a decent twist to cap the film off, but nope, we're giving an awful crossover "twist" to a movie no one has cared about in nearly twenty years.
Never again, never again...
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Post by Deexan on Mar 16, 2018 0:55:07 GMT -5
Harsh.
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Post by Doomsday on Mar 16, 2018 2:38:40 GMT -5
I remember hearing an interview with M. Night where he said that American audiences don't understand his movies and that his movies are more 'European.' Shit man, if I was a European I'd say 'what the fuck movies do you think we're watching over here?'
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Post by Neverending on Mar 16, 2018 3:13:54 GMT -5
I remember hearing an interview with M. Night where he said that American audiences don't understand his movies and that his movies are more 'European.' Shit man, if I was a European I'd say 'what the fuck movies do you think we're watching over here?' The #1 movie in Italy right now.
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Post by Doomsday on Mar 16, 2018 5:30:23 GMT -5
Maybe he’s got a point.
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Post by Dracula on Mar 16, 2018 6:07:39 GMT -5
I remember hearing an interview with M. Night where he said that American audiences don't understand his movies and that his movies are more 'European.' Shit man, if I was a European I'd say 'what the fuck movies do you think we're watching over here?' Might be because they dub over his shitty dialogue...
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Post by PhantomKnight on Mar 17, 2018 12:06:50 GMT -5
I did actually enjoy Split overall, but yeah...some of the dialogue in that movie just made me go, "Who do you think talks like this?"
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Post by Doomsday on Mar 22, 2018 21:33:04 GMT -5
Mudbound: Mudraiser IIWatched 3/20 I'm not sure where I come down on this movie exactly. It has everything that should evoke passions and tempers from an audience but it goes about with little subtlety. It's the story of two families, one white and one black, working a cotton farm while they deal with physical hardships, war, and racism that's bubbling from below the surface. When each family's son returns from World War II, the veterans form a bond that transcends the expectations of their cultures until one day things come to a head thanks to the ne'er do wells of the Ku Klux Klan. I know it's a phrase I often use but this is another example of a movie that I think is trying really hard to have a message but it's lost amidst a pretty meandering screenplay. We scratch the surface of most characters but don't know that much about any of them. Jason Clarke and Carey Mulligan play the primary couple, Henry and Laura, who own the farm where everyone works. Laura is unhappy in her marriage because Henry is just...there. He doesn't do much other than run the farm and we really don't know what his convictions or motivations are. Their brother Jamie, overplaying his phony accent to the point of being annoying by Patroclus from Troy, is an alcoholic thanks to his war experiences but is the only one who can really relate to Laura. In the meantime Jamie befriends Ronsel, the African American veteran who is having his own personal issues. We know Jamie is one of the good white people because he doesn't say the n-word. That's how the movie tells us who the good guys and bad guys are. The bad guys are also part of the Ku Klux Klan, lead by Mike Erhmantraut who also says the n-word a lot, so we know how bad they are. The thing is there isn't much of a message or moral behind it other than things are pretty bad for everybody. There isn't much closure at the end with many of the principle characters because it didn't feel like the movie could decide what it wanted to say. It's alright I suppose but I think the lesson here is that you have to have more than evil Klansmen and a 'racism is bad' message to rise above being just an average movie.
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Post by Deexan on Mar 22, 2018 22:02:45 GMT -5
That's quite the paragraph.
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Post by Doomsday on Mar 22, 2018 22:25:23 GMT -5
Return keys are for pussies.
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Post by IanTheCool on Mar 24, 2018 11:09:17 GMT -5
I hate the term "woke".
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Post by IanTheCool on Mar 24, 2018 11:12:56 GMT -5
I didn't like Mcavoy's performance in Split. Multiple personalities always come off as silly on screen, no matter how good at acting you are.
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Post by Doomsday on Mar 26, 2018 2:44:46 GMT -5
Gremlins 2: The New BatchWatched 3/25 Believe it or not this was my first time watching this movie. The original Gremlins, dozens of times, one of my childhood favs, I just never got around to Gremlins 2 despite hearing that it was actually really good. It's a movie that once again features Gizmo, Billy and a fully dressed Phoebe Cates battling a horde of green monsters, this time in a New York skyscraper. The main purpose of Gremlins 2 is to go completely off the rails mocking everything from consumerism a la Paul Verhoeven to even having Leonard Maltin giving a scathing review of the first Gremlins before being attacked by them. During their rampage they attack a genetics laboratory and start drinking vials conveniently marked with whatever animal or human crossover they're about to turn into. We're quickly introduced to bat-gremlins, spider-gremlins, cross-dressing gremlins and even gremlins made out of electricity. This movie looks like it was made for two reasons. One, to show off as many types of Gremlins they could come up with and two, to mock the first one as much as possible by breaking the fourth wall and frequently referencing the first film. There's a scene where the movie stops because the gremlins have 'broken the projector' and Hulk Hogan makes a cameo threatening that they had better put Gremlins 2 back on. It even makes fun of the extremely creepy and awkward story Phoebe Cates tells in the first one of her family discovering her dad's rotting corpse in her chimney only this time she's had a shocking experience on Lincoln's birthday. Basically where the first movie was based on a blend of horror and comedy, this was just pure insanity. There's no story behind Gremlins 2 whatsoever because like I said the main point was to exhibit different types of gremlins but because of that it never feels like you're watching an actual movie. In a way it gives me a good idea as to why a Gremlins 3 never got off the ground. A sequel has been thrown around for years and why not? In a time when nostalgia is at its peak you would think they would churn out another Gremlins movie but the question would be where the hell you would take it. Do you attempt to get sillier than Gremlins 2 or do you pull back and try to make something more similar to the first one? It's pretty incredible that Gremlins 2 makes the first Gremlins seem like an anchored, serious movie which is why I think it's a fair assumption that the hangups on Gremlins 3 relate to what you could even do with it. So yeah, Gremlins 2 is a pretty stupid movie that has some funny parts (I liked the Phantom of the Opera gremlin the most) but its complete lack of story, total absurdity and overall pointlessness make it feel like a missed opportunity when it could have really blown out the Gremlins mythos or done something more with any of the characters. But seriously though, if they can make a Blade Runner sequel 35 years after the original then they can dust off the puppets and make another Gremlins movie.
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Post by Neverending on Mar 26, 2018 3:16:44 GMT -5
They were going for the Evil Dead II approach.
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Post by Doomsday on Mar 31, 2018 12:26:42 GMT -5
The Neon DemonWatched 3/30 If you were to tell me that a movie about a beautiful, innocent young girl delving headfirst into the cutthroat Los Angeles modeling industry would end with necrophilia and cannibalism, I think I would have found myself a little perplexed. If you were to later tell me it was a Nicolas Winding Refn film it would have made a lot more sense. Refn is probably best known for 2011's Drive, probably my favorite movie of that year. He took a very simple and not wholly original story and reintroduced it with a cool and contemporary soundtrack, great camerawork and also showed an effort not to make it into a straight action movie which I really admired. A lot of people accused it of being a massive display of style over substance but I think Drive has both at least in terms of filmmaking. Bronson was also a solid watch from Refn but that's about as far as my admiration for the guy goes. Only God Forgives felt like it was a film exhibiting a director getting carried away with his own reputation and also had the misfortune of being a pretty bad movie. The Neon Demon was my attempt at giving Refn another shot and while there is much more of a narrative than Only God Forgives it comes off as a movie that thinks it needs to make a statement, a loud and uncomfortable statement. The first hour and a half is actually a pretty good movie. Elle Fanning plays Jesse, a new girl in town who wants to get into modeling and thanks to her good looks and innocent charm she wins everyone over much to the chagrin of the other models she competes against. Her success naturally begins to go to her head as she books major gigs and is showered with fawning compliments. She soon finds herself trapped in a house with those same jealous models who have some ill intentions to put it mildly and it's at this point where the movie gets into attention-seeking mode. There's a difference between a movie that attempts to be artistically provocative and a movie whose filmmaker has an ego that's running wild. The Neon Demon feels like the latter. From the opening credits you see NWR inserted at the bottom of the screen as if it's a DW Griffith movie from a hundred years ago. The hallmarks of 'NWR' are still present throughout the movie, the trance-like and ambient soundtrack, the intense and atmospheric lighting and cinematography, the long and steady shots, and there's no doubt that NWR is a talented director. In fact I found a majority of the movie to be pretty involving and reminiscent of other films featuring flawed and obsessed characters pursuing artistic ends like Black Swan. It's the third act that really goes off the rails and feels like NWR is just indulging himself thinking he can get away with doing the most outrageous things possible. What's worse is that it doesn't feel like it fit with the rest of the film, it all feels forced like some attempt to become a movie that 'people will need to talk about.' Desperation might be a better word for it. I get what NWR was trying to do, it just didn't work and that's infinitely worse than any amount of uncomfortable shots you can cram into a third act. At the very end of the film the text 'To Liv' appears on screen. I don't know who Liv is and I don't know her relationship to NWR but I'd be very curious to hear what she thought of The Neon Demon and I'd be more curious to hear her thoughts on it being dedicated to her. I can only imagine that the feelings are a bit mixed.
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Post by Doomsday on Mar 31, 2018 12:32:12 GMT -5
Okay, I just watched this. I had never even heard of this sketch before but there are so many reasons why it's great. It's funny, it isn't ripped from today's headlines, it actually has some kind of point and isn't pandering to the lowest common denominator. Basically it's everything that Saturday Night Live isn't. I'm impressed that they even wrote this sketch, there's no reason it should have been made in the 2010s other than they thought it was clever. I can get behind that.
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Post by thebtskink on Mar 31, 2018 19:34:52 GMT -5
Jordan Peele is just a big fuckin' nerd and he wears it on his sleeve.
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Post by frankyt on Apr 1, 2018 23:16:58 GMT -5
Gremlins 2 is proof that ideas concocted on cocaine aren't always bad.
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Post by Doomsday on Apr 2, 2018 1:25:47 GMT -5
Atomic BlondeWatched 4/1 Atomic Blonde is a movie that I enjoyed probably more than I should have. It's a lot of cool action with a really unoriginal, retreaded story told in an overly convoluted way. The story is one that I think has been used in almost every spy franchise. A list with all covert agents has fallen into the wrong hands and it's up to the main character to recover it before all these other agents are executed. Seriously, it's been used in Bond, Mission: Impossible, 24, anything else I'm missing? How many times have we seen this movie? At least Atomic Blonde tries to add some flash to an otherwise dull story. Set in 1989 only days before the Berlin Wall comes down, MI-6 agent Lorraine (Charlize Theron) is sent to recover a watch containing said list of agents and also find out who a dastardly double-agent is who's been a big pain to Western intelligence agencies. With the help of Percival (James McAvoy), the British point man in Berlin, they try to stop the spy and find the list before it falls into KGB hands. Much of the movie is pretty standard and it's all very predictable. If you've seen a half dozen spy movies in your life you'll know where everything is going but it's all given a nice luster with a cool 80s soundtrack, the standard 2018 neon set design and some pretty cool fight choreography. I always enjoy when a movie is willing to take something up a notch and Atomic Blonde tries its best to do that with its action scenes. Some come off as a little corny (she beats up a few guys by tangling them up in a hose Dark Knight-style) but there's a great extended fight where Lorraine beats on five or six KGB agents. What makes it a good watch is that Lorraine gets her ass kicked. She isn't invincible which makes it real. The plot is somehow equally predictable yet scatterbrained but the stylistic and retro approach combined with some pretty cool action makes it a solid popcorn flick. It won't rewrite the playbook for spy and action movies but it has enough good stuff in it to make it a simple, fun watch.
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