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Post by FShuttari on Dec 7, 2017 3:16:42 GMT -5
So I didn't care before since I didn't think the rumors were real, but now it looks like this is a for sure thing, in the next few weeks Disney will acquire 20th Century Fox.
Some things that I was thinking about how this partnership with Disney, We know Disney is family friendly and will go as far as PG-13
- What happens to Deadpool and a movies like Logan, I don't want them making these types of movies PG-13
- Disney/Marvel owning X-Men and Fantastic Four universe is awesome though. Having them be in the same universe as Avengers will be exactly what people wanted. With a reboot of course.
- What happens to Avatar and Camerons sequels?
- What about Alien franchise? Will we get a sequel to covenant that is more PG-13?
What are your guys is thoughts???
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Post by Wyldstaar on Dec 7, 2017 9:24:08 GMT -5
A Disney purchase of Fox doesn't mean the dissolution of Fox as a studio. When Disney bought Miramax, that studio continued to make the same films it had always made. In fact, when the Weinsteins began toying with generic crap like She's All That, Disney sent someone over to Miramax to tell them to cut it out.
I think Disney will combine their 30% of Hulu with Fox's 30% to take control of a streaming service. Fantastic Four will go to Marvel Studios. X-Men will stay at Fox and be separate from the MCU, but be overseen by Kevin Feige.
Avatar is James Cameron's baby, with Fox footing the bill and distributing. If Disney distributes instead, it won't change anything.
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Post by Dracula on Dec 7, 2017 10:46:09 GMT -5
A Disney purchase of Fox doesn't mean the dissolution of Fox as a studio. When Disney bought Miramax, that studio continued to make the same films it had always made. In fact, when the Weinsteins began toying with generic crap like She's All That, Disney sent someone over to Miramax to tell them to cut it out. I think Disney will combine their 30% of Hulu with Fox's 30% to take control of a streaming service. Fantastic Four will go to Marvel Studios. X-Men will stay at Fox and be separate from the MCU, but be overseen by Kevin Feige. Avatar is James Cameron's baby, with Fox footing the bill and distributing. If Disney distributes instead, it won't change anything. Do we know for sure that FOX's stake in Hulu is on the table? The Fox broadcast network reportedly isn't part of the deal and that's something that I'd think they would want to hold on to. |
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Post by Wyldstaar on Dec 7, 2017 11:05:28 GMT -5
A Disney purchase of Fox doesn't mean the dissolution of Fox as a studio. When Disney bought Miramax, that studio continued to make the same films it had always made. In fact, when the Weinsteins began toying with generic crap like She's All That, Disney sent someone over to Miramax to tell them to cut it out. I think Disney will combine their 30% of Hulu with Fox's 30% to take control of a streaming service. Fantastic Four will go to Marvel Studios. X-Men will stay at Fox and be separate from the MCU, but be overseen by Kevin Feige. Avatar is James Cameron's baby, with Fox footing the bill and distributing. If Disney distributes instead, it won't change anything. Do we know for sure that FOX's stake in Hulu is on the table? The Fox broadcast network reportedly isn't part of the deal and that's something that I'd think they would want to hold on to. The primary motivation for selling the studio is reportedly that 21st Century Fox doesn't have any confidence in their ability to compete in the evolving digital marketplace. Fox's broadcast network isn't on the table because Disney already owns a broadcast network (ABC), so antitrust laws prevent another. Fox may intend to sell the broadcast network as well, just not to Disney. Hard to say for certain. The FX cable network reportedly is on the table, since cable channels are numerous enough to avoid monopoly accusations. |
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Post by Neverending on Dec 7, 2017 18:13:45 GMT -5
Do we know for sure that FOX's stake in Hulu is on the table? The Fox broadcast network reportedly isn't part of the deal and that's something that I'd think they would want to hold on to. The primary motivation for selling the studio is reportedly that 21st Century Fox doesn't have any confidence in their ability to compete in the evolving digital marketplace. Fox's broadcast network isn't on the table because Disney already owns a broadcast network (ABC), so antitrust laws prevent another. Fox may intend to sell the broadcast network as well, just not to Disney. Hard to say for certain. The FX cable network reportedly is on the table, since cable channels are numerous enough to avoid monopoly accusations. Disney doesn’t care about Hulu. |
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Post by Wyldstaar on Dec 8, 2017 7:55:44 GMT -5
The primary motivation for selling the studio is reportedly that 21st Century Fox doesn't have any confidence in their ability to compete in the evolving digital marketplace. Fox's broadcast network isn't on the table because Disney already owns a broadcast network (ABC), so antitrust laws prevent another. Fox may intend to sell the broadcast network as well, just not to Disney. Hard to say for certain. The FX cable network reportedly is on the table, since cable channels are numerous enough to avoid monopoly accusations. Disney doesn’t care about Hulu. Whether Disney takes over Hulu or launches an all-new streaming service, they need the Fox catalog to diversify content. As to Disney caring about Hulu or not, they clearly didn't care much about it before they attempted to buy Netflix. Now that the Netflix purchase has fallen through and the possibility of gaining a controlling interest in Hulu is in sight, Disney may have started to care. |
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Post by RedVader on Dec 8, 2017 8:45:47 GMT -5
I am betting Fox is leasing movie and tv properties to disney like the Sony and Spiderman deal so we will likely be getting 2oth century fox logo back on Star Wars opening and Marvel can use X-Men and Fantastic Four but Fox still has control how they wanna do the Deadpool films and what ratings future films are.
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Post by Wyldstaar on Dec 8, 2017 9:06:59 GMT -5
I am betting Fox is leasing movie and tv properties to disney like the Sony and Spiderman deal so we will likely be getting 2oth century fox logo back on Star Wars opening and Marvel can use X-Men and Fantastic Four but Fox still has control how they wanna do the Deadpool films and what ratings future films are. I'll take that bet. |
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Post by Neverending on Dec 8, 2017 9:15:49 GMT -5
Disney doesn’t care about Hulu. Whether Disney takes over Hulu or launches an all-new streaming service, they need the Fox catalog to diversify content. As to Disney caring about Hulu or not, they clearly didn't care much about it before they attempted to buy Netflix. Now that the Netflix purchase has fallen through and the possibility of gaining a controlling interest in Hulu is in sight, Disney may have started to care. Disney already launched Movies Anywhere. moviesanywhere.com/welcome |
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Post by PhantomKnight on Dec 8, 2017 14:54:31 GMT -5
If this means that all X-Men characters are going to the MCU and have to fit into that mold, thus watering down Deadpool to PG-13 and effectively putting the kai-bosh on any more "out of the box" entries like Logan and New Mutants, I don't like it. I'd rather have variety than everything under one umbrella, especially in terms of tone/storytelling.
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Post by Wyldstaar on Dec 8, 2017 19:28:59 GMT -5
Whether Disney takes over Hulu or launches an all-new streaming service, they need the Fox catalog to diversify content. As to Disney caring about Hulu or not, they clearly didn't care much about it before they attempted to buy Netflix. Now that the Netflix purchase has fallen through and the possibility of gaining a controlling interest in Hulu is in sight, Disney may have started to care. Disney already launched Movies Anywhere. moviesanywhere.com/welcomeMovies Anywhere is primarily a digital locker service, like Ultraviolet. It's not a subscription service. |
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Post by Fanible on Dec 8, 2017 20:12:46 GMT -5
Like others have said, Miramax was never held down to make non-rated-R films and had a general freedom to create a variety of pictures. They just didn't have the Disney name attached. Parts of Fox's productions could just as easily remain the same. Just because X-Men would be brought into the MCU, most likely rebooted, doesn't mean Deadpool would. In fact, he would probably continue to remain on his own and even reference all the mix-ups.
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Post by Dracula on Dec 8, 2017 20:27:58 GMT -5
I'm sure Deadpool is safe as long as it keeps making money. I'm also sure there's still a place for established brands like Alien and Die Hard, the question is if there's going to be room for whatever the next Deadpool or Logan would have been.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 8, 2017 21:39:51 GMT -5
Movies Anywhere is primarily a digital locker service, like Ultraviolet. It's not a subscription service. Point is, they didn’t buy out Ultraviolet. They made their own. I don’t think Disney cares about Hulu. |
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Post by Wyldstaar on Dec 8, 2017 22:46:33 GMT -5
Movies Anywhere is primarily a digital locker service, like Ultraviolet. It's not a subscription service. Point is, they didn’t buy out Ultraviolet. They made their own. I don’t think Disney cares about Hulu. Then why do you think Disney went to the expense of founding Hulu with Fox in the first place? |
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Post by Neverending on Dec 8, 2017 22:49:31 GMT -5
Point is, they didn’t buy out Ultraviolet. They made their own. I don’t think Disney cares about Hulu. Then why do you think Disney went to the expense of founding Hulu with Fox in the first place? They didn’t. That was ABC. |
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Post by Dracula on Dec 8, 2017 22:49:58 GMT -5
Point is, they didn’t buy out Ultraviolet. They made their own. I don’t think Disney cares about Hulu. Then why do you think Disney went to the expense of founding Hulu with Fox in the first place? Fox and NBC were probably founding it with or without ABC so it made sense to get a piece of it while it was small in case it turned into something valuable. |
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Post by Neverending on Dec 8, 2017 23:05:21 GMT -5
Then why do you think Disney went to the expense of founding Hulu with Fox in the first place? Fox and NBC were probably founding it with or without ABC so it made sense to get a piece of it while it was small in case it turned into something valuable. Even CBS got into the mix through their ownership of the CW. Hulu was pretty much the networks joining the 21st century. Disney, as a corporation, has never had a presence on Hulu. Nor has any studio. It’s pretty much an ABC and the networks thing. |
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Post by Wyldstaar on Dec 8, 2017 23:45:20 GMT -5
I suppose that's all true enough. With that being the case, it's possible Disney won't be acquiring Fox's 30%. Even if it's up for grabs, they may not want it.
My own preference would be that Disney would just leave well enough alone and stick with Netflix and Amazon Prime. It's better for us as consumers to have services that can provide content from a variety of creators. Each studio having their own service is restrictive, but that seems to be what they all hope to establish at some point.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 9, 2017 0:07:39 GMT -5
I suppose that's all true enough. With that being the case, it's possible Disney won't be acquiring Fox's 30%. Even if it's up for grabs, they may not want it. My own preference would be that Disney would just leave well enough alone and stick with Netflix and Amazon Prime. It's better for us as consumers to have services that can provide content from a variety of creators. Each studio having their own service is restrictive, but that seems to be what they all hope to establish at some point. In 10 years, streaming is gonna be cable. |
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Post by RedVader on Dec 9, 2017 6:21:08 GMT -5
I am betting Fox is leasing movie and tv properties to disney like the Sony and Spiderman deal so we will likely be getting 2oth century fox logo back on Star Wars opening and Marvel can use X-Men and Fantastic Four but Fox still has control how they wanna do the Deadpool films and what ratings future films are. I'll take that bet. Im not really betting its just a thing people say. But really we know Disney cant own all of Fox because of them owning ABC. Disney and Fox type deal helps Fox more but Marvel gains more but Fox can still control Deadpool. And maybe Fox will request they could be back in the opening too all Star Wars movies like the old days if they wont try to effect Lucasfilm in any way. Only thing is Sony Voice seems a bit more louder really because Disney and Marvel needed Spiderman. I dont want Disney too own all things really in film and movies. Sharing properties seems better too me really. But who am i kidding Disney cares about the money. Which is what scares most Star Wars fans going into Last Jedi. |
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Post by Neverending on Dec 12, 2017 19:03:27 GMT -5
Announcement coming on Thursday
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Post by IanTheCool on Dec 12, 2017 20:11:03 GMT -5
Sigh, okay. Can we at least get the real star wars on bluray then?
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Post by thebtskink on Dec 12, 2017 20:55:34 GMT -5
Sigh, okay. Can we at least get the real star wars on bluray then? You'll keep your laserdisc and you'll like it! |
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