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Post by Neverending on Jan 15, 2017 12:29:50 GMT -5
I had 3 or 4 people watch one of the OSS 117 movies for the Film Club. I believe all of them really enjoyed it, it's hilarious. Take your French comedy. I'll stick to Austin Powers.
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Post by thebtskink on Jan 15, 2017 17:40:37 GMT -5
*french accent* haw haw haw */french accent*
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Post by Jibbs on Jan 16, 2017 0:40:36 GMT -5
I had 3 or 4 people watch one of the OSS 117 movies for the Film Club. I believe all of them really enjoyed it, it's hilarious. Yeah, one of them was quite funny.
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Post by Dhamon22 on Jan 16, 2017 16:00:32 GMT -5
I can't see how anyone could not like this movie. I just wish it had kept up the energy of the first 30 minutes throughout. But its incredibly well made, nice follow up to Whiplash (which I think is better). Great ending too.
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Post by Neverending on Jan 16, 2017 21:57:46 GMT -5
I think I agree that Whiplash is better, but I can see this movie being more rewatchable.
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Post by Dracula on Jan 16, 2017 22:02:43 GMT -5
I would say LLL is better than Whiplash insomuch as it's doing something a bit more special. Whiplash is well made for what it is but it's ultimately a fairly conventional drama/coming of age movie. Honestly I've never considered it all that remarkable in the grand scheme of things.
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Post by Doomsday on Jan 16, 2017 22:54:43 GMT -5
Whiplash is absolutely a better movie.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Jan 17, 2017 11:38:36 GMT -5
Whiplash is absolutely a better movie. Agreed, it's definitely superior. Think of the actual drama. One of my criticisms for La La Land is that I never feel like much is at stake with their dreams. Oh sure, Gosling can't play the music he wants to and Stone isn't getting any parts and her show flops, but they always bounce right back and press on. In Whiplash, being first chair is ALL that matters to Miles Teller. It's all that drives him in life, and without the ability to be the best he has nothing. Sure, it helps that J.K. Simmons is mercilessly pushing him towards this, but being a drummer is all that the character can tolerate being. Stone still can work at the coffee shop, Gosling can still land crappy gigs. It's not what they want, but their pursuit of their dreams doesn't feel nearly as consuming as Teller's in Whiplash. Whiplash has far superior dramatic work because of this. La La Land is a more impressive production and has a lot of dazzle and showy elements that work very well, but Whiplash resonated with me far more.
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Post by Neverending on Jan 17, 2017 17:50:30 GMT -5
Whiplash is absolutely a better movie. Agreed, it's definitely superior. Think of the actual drama. One of my criticisms for La La Land is that I never feel like much is at stake with their dreams. Oh sure, Gosling can't play the music he wants to and Stone isn't getting any parts and her show flops, but they always bounce right back and press on. In Whiplash, being first chair is ALL that matters to Miles Teller. It's all that drives him in life, and without the ability to be the best he has nothing. Sure, it helps that J.K. Simmons is mercilessly pushing him towards this, but being a drummer is all that the character can tolerate being. Stone still can work at the coffee shop, Gosling can still land crappy gigs. It's not what they want, but their pursuit of their dreams doesn't feel nearly as consuming as Teller's in Whiplash. Whiplash has far superior dramatic work because of this. La La Land is a more impressive production and has a lot of dazzle and showy elements that work very well, but Whiplash resonated with me far more. The problem with Whiplash is the JK character. That dude would have gotten his teeth knocked out if he pulled that nonsense in real life. If they had just kept him verbally abusive, they could have gotten away with it. But they went too far and the movie just seems too unrealistic, which is what you don't want in a character drama. La La Land works for what it is: a romantic musical. You can rewatch it. Whiplash, you watch it once or twice and you don't need to watch it again.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Jan 17, 2017 18:22:24 GMT -5
I don't agree with that. You're saying that there aren't intense teachers out there like that? Coaches? Bob Knight ring a bell? Sure they drub it up a little bit, but that's drama, and he's a great antagonist for Teller's character. He desperately wants his approval, yet Simmons' character is unwilling to relinquish that no matter what he does. He's fighting this constant losing battle, but all he can see is this desire to prove Simmons wrong. He pushes himself, even humiliates himself and cuts off relationships in his life for his dreams. Did anyone in La La Land do that? Not really. Sure they grew apart and don't end up together, but in the end they both achieve their goals and have good lives even if they aren't with each other. Hell, they probably could've had careers and their relationships. Big difference in dramatic weight.
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Post by Neverending on Jan 17, 2017 18:35:46 GMT -5
I don't agree with that. You're saying that there aren't intense teachers out there like that? Coaches? Bob Knight ring a bell? Sure they drub it up a little bit, but that's drama, and he's a great antagonist for Teller's character. He desperately wants his approval, yet Simmons' character is unwilling to relinquish that no matter what he does. He's fighting this constant losing battle, but all he can see is this desire to prove Simmons wrong. He pushes himself, even humiliates himself and cuts off relationships in his life for his dreams. Did anyone in La La Land do that? Not really. Sure they grew apart and don't end up together, but in the end they both achieve their goals and have good lives even if they aren't with each other. Hell, they probably could've had careers and their relationships. Big difference in dramatic weight. Players put up with Bobby Knight cause they wanna go to the NBA. No one gonna put up with that shit for a jazz band. Despite what Damien What's His Face wants you to believe, there's no money in jazz. That's a hobby, not a job/career. The movie just isn't believable enough to be effective.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Jan 17, 2017 18:37:43 GMT -5
Who said he was motivated by money? He had a passion for playing drums, and his conquest became a personal one for himself and to shove it in Simmons' face. It might have been a highly selfish driving force, but it was highly compelling nonetheless.
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Post by Neverending on Jan 17, 2017 18:39:03 GMT -5
Who said he was motivated by money? He had a passion for playing drums, and his conquest became a personal one for himself and to shove it in Simmons' face. It might have been a highly selfish driving force, but it was highly compelling nonetheless. His character was pathetic, not inspiring.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Jan 17, 2017 18:43:01 GMT -5
Pathetic? Not the word I would use. He's extreme and irrational, yes, but not pathetic.
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Post by daniel on Jan 18, 2017 0:45:27 GMT -5
After Dracula helped put this and Manchester in perspective for me, I'm going to have to deem Manchester my favorite film of the year. This is gonna win Best Picture on emotional appeal, however.
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Post by Dhamon22 on Jan 18, 2017 20:03:51 GMT -5
I think I agree that Whiplash is better, but I can see this movie being more rewatchable. I can see that being the case.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 24, 2017 12:32:53 GMT -5
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