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Post by Doomsday on Aug 2, 2016 12:39:11 GMT -5
Didn't see your Sleeping Beauty post earlier but I think that's Disney's best from that era. I saw it for the first time when I was 25 or 26 and thought 'wow, this is pretty legit.'
But you can take your 1-star Peter Pan review and shove it up your pee hole!
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Post by Justin on Aug 2, 2016 13:24:42 GMT -5
Drac just doesn't have time for people in green tights and pointy hats.
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Post by Justin on Aug 2, 2016 13:30:47 GMT -5
"Unless you become as little Children, you can't see God's kingdom." --Jesus "All you need is faith and trust... and a little bit of pixie dust!" --Peter Pan
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Post by Dracula on Aug 2, 2016 13:35:50 GMT -5
Didn't see your Sleeping Beauty post earlier but I think that's Disney's best from that era. I saw it for the first time when I was 25 or 26 and thought 'wow, this is pretty legit.' But you can take your 1-star Peter Pan review and shove it up your pee hole! I calls 'em like I sees 'em. To be fair Peter Pan is better than the next Disney movie I'll be giving one star to, in retrospect I might have bumped it up to one and half.
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Post by Neverending on Aug 2, 2016 17:31:30 GMT -5
Next to Aladdin, 101 Dalmatians was my favorite Disney animated film growing up.
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Post by Dracula on Aug 6, 2016 22:53:26 GMT -5
The Sword in the Stone (1963)
Out of all the Disney movies from the studio’s “classic era” (which more or less comprises the movies released during Walt Disney’s lifetime) The Sword in the Stone is easily the one I know the least about. I definitely never saw it when I was younger and of all these movies it’s probably the one that had the least impact on pop culture. There have been other movies in this retrospective like Alice in Wonderland that I don’t have much of a memory of, but at least that’s based on a story that’s been adapted a million other times. I suppose you could say the same about The Sword in the Stone given that it’s based on Arthurian legend, but it’s based on a very narrow portion of the King Arthur story, a part that I’m not too familiar with. Specifically it’s based on a 1938 novel by T. H. White, which was the first part of his tetralogy called “The Once and Future King,” and focused entirely on King Arthur’s childhood leading up to his drawing of the titular sword from the stone. The movie actually made a lot of money when it first came out but it’s fallen out of favor for a reason: the movie is terrible. It’s not just bad by the standards of other Disney movies, it’s piss poor even when compared to your average animated movies from other studios. The film opens with the “live action storybook” opening that was seen previously in Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, Cinderella, and Sleeping Beauty, seemingly to align it with those other fairy tale movies but it doesn’t really play out like any of them. There’s no princess for one thing, no romance, only barely a villain, and the structure is generally different. In fact this film’s structure really seems odd to me as its extremely episodic and largely plays out like an extended prologue (probably because it’s based on the first in a series of four novels). At the film’s center are three “lessons” that Merlin gives to Arthur in which the two of them turn into fish, squirrels, and finally birds and it isn’t really clear what he’s learning from any of them. Merlin constantly tells him to value brains over brawn but it’s harldy clear what being a fish has to do with that and the squirll bit is even more perplexing as the whole skit seems to mostly revolve around Arthur nearly getting raped by a lady squrill who has a Pepe Le Piu thing going on. In fact they never actually seem to get to the lesson in any of these sequences, Arthur just keeps almost getting killed in them before Merlin saves him. In fact Arthur does almost nothing for himself throughout the movie and none of his lessons actually comes to anything. It’s as if the movie The Karate Kid consisted almost entirely of Daniel waxing cars, never being told what that has to do with martial arts, and then having Mr. Miyagi fighting off the Cobra Kai for him at the end, and then maybe having a title card at the end saying that Daniel would one day become the next Bruce Lee or something. It’s the worst “heroes journey” story imaginable. I suppose you’re supposed to surmise given you existing knowledge of the King Arthur character that these lessons about becoming animals are really formative, but Merlin’s preachy credo of academic learning doesn’t exactly jive with what we know about Arthur, who is probably more associated with smiting people with Excalibur than he is with scholarly study. From a production end this movie is also a pretty big fail. The animation in the movie is… it might be going to far to say it’s horrible because I’m sure there were other studios doing worse at this time, but it’s a far cry from the great looking stuff they did earlier. One Hundred and One Dalmatians sort of got away with this new Xerox look because it had a different setting than most of their previous movies and had kind of a unique style to it, but this movie invites comparisons to better looking movies like Snow White and Sleeping Beauty and woefully unimpressive when compared to both. This also marks the first movie with songs written by the Sherman Brothers, which I’m told is a big deal because they would write some pretty famous songs for Mary Poppins and The Jungle Book, but very little of their talent is apparent here because the music in this thing sucks. The most famous song is a bit of lyrical gibberish called "Higitus Figitus" which is a complete ripoff of the already lame "Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo." Finally I despised the movie’s sense of humor. Part of Merlin’s magic is that he knows about the future and about things that haven’t yet been discovered and brings this up in some of the most eye rolling fourth wall breaks you can imagine. I suppose in many ways he’s a precursor to the genie from Aladdin in this way but the dude doing the voice is no Robin Williams. This reaches its nadir in the last scene where Merlin shows up to Arthur’s coronation in Bermuda shorts and references that this all may one day become a movie. Eyeroll. There’s almost nothing about this movie I liked. It’s a failure creatively, narratively, artistically, and cinematically and Disney is right to want to downplay this in their history as much as possible. * out of Five
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Post by Deexan on Aug 7, 2016 0:24:24 GMT -5
You have destroyed my childhood in one fell swoop.
Also, haven't we all dreamt of being raped by a lady squirrel form time to time? I know I have.
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Post by Doomsday on Aug 11, 2016 11:27:04 GMT -5
Even as a kid I never liked Sword in the Stone.
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Post by Neverending on Aug 11, 2016 14:25:36 GMT -5
You have destroyed my childhood in one fell swoop. Also, haven't we all dreamt of being raped by a lady squirrel form time to time? I know I have. Even as a kid I never liked Sword in the Stone. It's funny, but as a kid, I preferred the post-Walt Disney 70's movies over the 60's ones. Robin Hood and The AristoCats were two of my favorites. BUT the 101 Dalmatians was my 2nd favorite Disney movie next to Aladdin.
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Post by Doomsday on Aug 11, 2016 14:33:59 GMT -5
I was all about Robin Hood, it was my first exposure to Peter Ustinov.
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Post by Dracula on Aug 12, 2016 19:32:47 GMT -5
The Jungle Book (1967)
On December 15th, 1966 Walt Disney died of lung cancer after forty six years of working in film and creating an animation empire. This news was greeted with worldwide mourning and in a bigger way it seemed like the end of an era. Louis Mayer had already died at this point, Darryl F. Zanuck was close to being booted from 20th Century Fox, and Jack Warner was three years from retiring at Warner Brothers. It seemed like the end of an era and it wasn’t clear what would happen to the company he built. In his last years Walt had one final mission: to make his swan song. It would be an exaggeration to view The Jungle Book as being the product of his singular vision and the film’s credits certainly wouldn’t indicate him as having had more creative input on it than with any of the studio’s other films, but all evidence points to him having had a more hands on role in the film than he did on One Hundred and One Dalmatians and The Sword in the Stone, and his influence definitely shows as this is a clear improvement over both of those movies. Let’s get the negative out of the way first: Mowgli sucks. He’s this really punchable little shit who does dumb stuff constantly and seems to be on the verge of getting himself killed throughout the movie. This would be a bigger problem if I thought he was the film’s true protagonist, but he isn’t really. That distinction would fall on Bagheera and Baloo, who are sort of the Henry IV and Falstaff to Mowgli’s Prince Hal. In fact the side characters in this movie across the board are quite strong, in part because this is one of the first Disney movies to cast somewhat recognizable names for the voice cast… well, recognizable at the time anyway. The villainous Shere Khan, voiced by veteran character actor George Sanders , is a really cleverly drawn foe given his generally understated mannerism and interesting motives. King Louis is also a really fun (if somewhat incidental) presence both because his mannerisms are very well animated and also because jazz bandleader Louis Prima really kills it on the “I Wanna Be Like You” number. The only voice performance I didn’t care for was Sterling Holloway as Kaa the python, which is a character with some cool animation behind him but who probably shouldn’t have had the same voice as Winnie the Pooh. In general this just seems like the first Disney movie that’s really interested in engaging with the slang and music of its time… or at least the slang and music of the ten or so years preceding it. I can definitely see that instinct backfiring in a big way, but here it mostly works. The film’s animation also seemed like an improvement over what they were doing in the last two movies. They’re still animating with Xerox machines but they seem to be getting better at it and they used more hand painting for the backgrounds this time around. Make not mistake, the animation here still doesn’t hold a candle to what the studio was doing in the 30s, 40s, or even 50s but it didn’t bug me as much as the last two movies did. Ultimately this movie did work for me although at times it felt more like a series of sketches than a full narrative. There’s an interesting theme somewhere in there about whether Mowgli really “belongs” in the jungle which is never really fully explored and the ending where Mowgli does a complete 180 turn on his insistence on remaining in the jungle the second he gets a glimpse of some poontang is kind of a cop-out. The rest of the world seemed to like it as was a big hit at the box office, well-liked by critics, and to this day is probably one of Disney’s five most famous movies of all time. By pretty much any measure it was a pretty good movie for Walt to go out on. ***1/2 out of Five
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Post by Neverending on Aug 12, 2016 19:47:35 GMT -5
The Jungle Book can go fuck itself.
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Post by PG Cooper on Aug 12, 2016 21:05:57 GMT -5
Nice review, Drac.
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Post by thebtskink on Aug 12, 2016 21:17:57 GMT -5
That second paragraph is poetry, man.
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Post by Doomsday on Aug 12, 2016 21:49:04 GMT -5
The Jungle Book can go fuck itself. Doomsday story: For a year in college I lived with a super nerdy, weird guy with really bad speech impediments. One day he runs into the apartment carrying this long package shouting 'I NEED DA TV RIGHT NOW!' He sits down, opens the package and reveals an entire set of Tailspin VHS tapes. He was beyond excited. For the next two weeks whenever I was in my room studying or writing papers I would hear from the other room 'boom boom boo boo boo ooooeeeeay Tailspin! Ooooeeeoh Tailspin!' As you can guess he got laid all the time.
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Post by Neverending on Aug 12, 2016 23:41:28 GMT -5
The Jungle Book can go fuck itself. Doomsday story: For a year in college I lived with a super nerdy, weird guy with really bad speech impediments. One day he runs into the apartment carrying this long package shouting 'I NEED DA TV RIGHT NOW!' He sits down, opens the package and reveals an entire set of Tailspin VHS tapes. He was beyond excited. For the next two weeks whenever I was in my room studying or writing papers I would hear from the other room 'boom boom boo boo boo ooooeeeeay Tailspin! Ooooeeeoh Tailspin!' As you can guess he got laid all the time. I can top that story. College. I go on a school trip to some national awards thing. We were nominated, didn't win, and spent a few days having fun in the city. One of the guys in our group was an awkward gamer and he almost never left the hotel. I think he brought his Playstation 2 and hooked it up to the room TV. Anyway, it's the day of the ceremony. We're all getting in the elevator to go to the banquet hall. It was in the hotel. It's a national thing, so the hotel is packed and the elevators are packed. So packed that the hot girl in our group, a Brazilian with a big ass, is standing only inches in front of him. And this motherfucker, who spent the whole fucking trip in the hotel, gets a boner and pokes her with it. You should have seen the expression on her face. Priceless.
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Post by Deexan on Aug 13, 2016 3:59:57 GMT -5
Schoolboy error. Should've done the old tuck-him-under-the-belt manoeuvre.
Still, I bet he had a magnificent wank that night. Although saying that, he probably spuffed there and then.
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Post by thebtskink on Aug 13, 2016 10:27:27 GMT -5
Sometimes you don't have room to perform the tuck.
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Post by Deexan on Aug 13, 2016 10:35:49 GMT -5
It's a delicate procedure, especially for the uninitiated.
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Post by Doomsday on Aug 13, 2016 11:01:33 GMT -5
Couldn't he have just gone Buffalo Bill style and not have to use the belt at all?
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Post by PhantomKnight on Aug 13, 2016 13:59:05 GMT -5
From Jungle Book to boners...
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Post by PG Cooper on Aug 13, 2016 14:28:43 GMT -5
Schoolboy error. Should've done the old tuck-him-under-the-belt manoeuvre. Still, I bet he had a magnificent wank that night. Although saying that, he probably spuffed there and then. Sometimes you don't have room to perform the tuck. It's a delicate procedure, especially for the uninitiated. Couldn't he have just gone Buffalo Bill style and not have to use the belt at all? You guys are acting like he didn't wanna poke her. From Jungle Book to boners... The most natural transition of all.
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Post by Jibbs on Aug 14, 2016 0:12:31 GMT -5
No elevator has ever been that crowded.
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Post by Dracula on Aug 17, 2016 20:02:35 GMT -5
The Aristocats (1970)
Disney’s 1970 film The Arisocats was moderate box office hit in 1970. I repeat, the movie was a moderate box office hit. It made about $20 million at the box office (I think, it can be kind of hard to tell with movies made before 1980) which is around what other Disney movies of the era made. It got decent reviews too. You wouldn’t know that today however because the movie hasn’t had anywhere close to the cultural impact of other Disney movies. If it’s remembered at all its for its place in film history as the moment a lot of people identify as Disney’s shark jump moment which not too coincidentally comes right after the death of company patriarch Walt Disney. Walt was not entirely divorced from this production. The film started out as a proposed live action episode of Disney’s “Wonderful World of Color” TV series (not sure how that would have worked) and shortly before his death Disney approved the story as an animated feature to follow The Jungle Book. It would probably be inaccurate to say that it’s Disney’s most obscure film as that distinction probably goes to one of their various misfires in the 80s and early 2000s but it’s definitely the least well known of the Disney movies I’ve watched so far for this series. Hell I didn’t even know what this thing was about before turning it on except that it presumably involved aristocratic cats. So is this deserving of its crappy reputation? Well it is and it isn’t. If the movie has a bad reputation it isn’t because it’s the most awful thing the studio ever made, I can see why critics at the time gave it a pass anyway, but it doesn’t surprise me that the movie was swiftly forgotten as “forgettable” is probably the best word to describe it. The movie is basically the “pampered female pet falls for a roguish street animal” plot of Lady and the Tramp combined with the “animals get kidnapped by a crazy person” plot of One Hundred and One Dalmatians but is less effective than both of them. The romance feels secondary forced in a way that the Lady and the Tramp courtship didn’t and the kidnapping plot makes even less sense than Cruella De Vil’s scheme. This lame butler is in a position where his boss is going to leave money to her cats which will then go to him after the kitties die… to me that doesn’t sound like a half bad deal. He’s still going to get the money eventually (cats don’t live that long) and even if he did need those cats out of the way it makes zero sense for him to try to bump them off while their owner is still alive. The second the cats are gone this old lady will have no incentive to leave the money to the butler anymore. It’s moronic, and it doesn’t help that this butler isn’t moustache twirlingly fun as a villain the way Cruella is. The plot isn’t really the problem though, the characters are. We don’t really get to know that much about Dutchess the cat except for her role as a mother to the kittens, who are all quite annoying in part because the real kids who voice them don’t really give them distinct personalities. Thomas O'Malley has a little more personality… but that personality is a lot like Baloo (also voiced by Phil Harris) to the point where it just seems like another lazy lift from a previous success. The side characters are also kind of lame and none of the characters in the movie really sell us on the emotional stakes or even give us the sense that they’re in much danger. There are some saving graces here. For one thing, Disney has continued to improve on their use of Xerography to the point where the animation here finally looks like it’s at least on par with some of the stuff they made in the 50s. The animation isn’t good enough to make the film a visual marvel or anything but it wasn’t a distraction like it was for the first two movies in this installment. The songs in the movie aren’t half bad. The Sherman brothers returned to write songs after their success with The Jungle Book and it would be the last Disney movie they’d work on. The song “Thomas O'Malley Cat” works pretty well for Phil Harris and has some fairly complex lyrics that fit well in the melody. The song that gets most widely cited is "Ev'rybody Wants to Be a Cat," which is a decent song but the scene it shows up in seems really superfluous and jazz music does not really make sense showing up in 1910 Paris. In fact I’m not really sure why this thing was set in Paris anyway, the film doesn’t do a lot with the setting and given the music involved it would have made a lot more sense to set it in New Orleans. So this movie wasn’t painful to watch exactly but it feels less more like the work of a competitor doing a Disney impression than like an actual Disney movie, so ultimately I feel like its status as the “forgotten” Disney movie is mostly deserved. ** out of Five
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