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Post by Dracula on Jun 20, 2017 6:19:29 GMT -5
The Era of ConfusionThree installments ago I looked at Disney during the period between 1977 and 1988, which has dubbed the “Disney Dark Age” which set the studio up for its famous Renaissance during the 1990s. In retrospect that was far from being Disney’s low point given the bad place they would find themselves in during the 2000s. During this era Disney had seemingly no idea what they wanted to be after the Disney Renaissance, and unlike in the 80s when their only competitor in the world of theatrical animation was Don Bluth and the occasional movie based on a Saturday morning cartoon, there were major players in the 2000s that were more than willing to fill the void that Disney was leaving. Pixar was obviously in ascendance in the late 90s and began out grossing their older cousins at Disney pretty much out of the gate and by the 2000s they were pretty indisputably the more relevant and profitable studio. At least in the case of Pixar the broader Disney Corporation profited from that competitor’s success, but the rise of Dreamworks and other offshoots like Fox Animation and Sony Animation were much more existential threats. In part, Disney was becoming a victim of their own success. Movies like The Lion King and Beauty and the Beast had proven that there was major money to be made from animated features and the pie had become big enough that other studios had realized that they could get a piece of it and made investments accordingly that were beginning to come to fruition. Still, Disney being the cultural institution that it was made it a bit too big to fail and they continued to churn out movies at a pretty steady pace as they struggled to find a new identity. In fact they were actually putting out more product than ever. In nine years I have left to cover they put out no fewer than twelve different movies under the Disney Animation Studios umbrella and for this installment I’ll be looking at the first six, three of which actually came out during their jam packed year 2000. Fantasia 2000 (2000)
In the year 2000 Disney put out three movies; one was meant as a continuation of what they were doing in the 90s, one was a wacky experiment, and one was a labor of love harkening back to the studio’s earliest days which probably wasn’t really meant to be an overly commercial project. The first of these films to be released was that third one: a follow-up to Disney’s 1940 classic Fantasia. Fantasia 2000 is generally believed to be the pet project of Walt Disney nephew and Disney board member Roy Disney. The idea was rooted in the fact that Walt Disney had always envisioned Fantasia as a sort of living document, one that would be re-released frequently with some segments dropped and new ones added and would be a sort of platform for an endless supply of classical music themed animated shorts. When the original film underperformed in its original release that plan was scuttled and some of the follow-up shorts were re-purposed for other short-compilation films. In the 80s Roy Disney got the idea to pick up on Walt’s original plan and make a follow-up Fantasia but as you may recall the Disney company was mired in turmoil during that decade and was in no position to throw millions at a project that would have major commercial hurdles and probably wouldn’t sell too many toys. But by the 90s when the Disney Renaissance was in full swing they finally had some leeway to take some risk and Roy Disney’s dream of bringing Fantasia back to the big screen could finally be realized. If I were to describe my feelings about Fantasia 2000 briefly it would probably be “It’s cool that they made this and the best parts make it worth it, but they definitely made some pretty big mistakes along the way.” Let’s start with the positive. The best segment in the film is actually the one that least closely resembles the style of the original: a love letter to New York in the style of famous caricaturist Al Hirschfeld set to Gershwin’s “Rhapsody in Blue.” It doesn’t look like classic Disney at all but it was an inspired style to use to bring Gershwin’s jazz-classic fusion classic to life and the various narratives they string through the short were enjoyable to follow. The other highlight is probably the final segment: a war between an earth spirit and a giant phoenix set to Stravinsky’s “Firebird suite.” The narrative through line in that short seems a little random and go goes contrary to what phoenixes are generally supposed to represent but the general epicness of the visuals makes up for this and it serves decently enough as a companion to the “Night on Bald Mountain scene” from the original that this is almost certainly trying to evoke. The Donald Duck/Noah’s Ark/”Pomp and Circumstance” segment also mostly works and it was cool that they got the idea to pull a “Sorcerer’s Apprentice” with another one of the characters from the Mickey Mouse universe, although Pomp and Circumstance seems like kind of an odd music choice given that it’s so heavily associated with graduation ceremonies. Speaking of “The Sorcerer’s Apprentice”… it’s also in the movie, unaltered from its original form and in its entirety. I guess if I were seeing this thing in a theater in 2000 this might have been a nice little added treat but given that this is a 75 minute movie it’s hard not to view it as just being a time filler they through in. The “Carnival of Animals” sequence also kind of has the whiff of padding. It’s well animated and cute but it’s really short and doesn’t really leave much of an impression and almost feels unfinished in some ways. Another segment that doesn’t work so well, at least to my eyes today, is the “Pines of Rome” sequence in which a pack of whales starts flying out of the water and into space or something. I can kind of see why it might have looked cool in the 2000s but it’s weird and the CGI used to animate it has not aged all that well. Frankly it kind of looked like it could have been a companion to those coca cola commercials with the polar bears. Questionable CGI also mars the "Steadfast Tin Soldier" segment in which a toy soldier faces off against an evil Jack-In-The-Box, although that one did have other elements that redeemed it pretty well, particularly a brief portion in the sewers with these cool looking rats. Something kind of odd about the movie as a whole is that a lot of the classical music pieces they chose are a little less famous than the ones chosen for the first film. That original movie feels almost like a greatest hits of legendary orchestral pieces. There are some famous pieces here too like “Rhapsody in Blue” and “Pomp and Circumstance” but a lot of them use deeper cuts from composers like Dmitri Shostakovich and Ottorino Respighi which I (in my relative ignorance of classical music) was not terribly familiar with. That might not have been as much of a problem with some good introductions to give context… which brings me to my biggest gripe: the live action intros in this thing are dogshit. The original Fantasia had this really classy presentation where you were invited to imagine yourself as an attendee at a high class orchestral show with a world famous conductor and a well-known classical music expert giving you introductions. Here they’ve replaced that with a series of hacky intros by various celebrities like Steve Martin and Penn & Teller that completely kill the mood. I realize that seems like a goofy thing to dock points for, the shorts are the real meat of the project after all, but they have the effect of cheapening things and kind of put into perspective how important the framing was to the original movie. So overall Fantasia 2000 is a bit of a mixed bag but for whatever faults it has I just can’t be too mad at it if only because it just feels like such neat thing for a major studio to be throwing money at and it just feels like a pretty noble attempt. Michael Eisner is reported to have called it “Roy’s folly” and the company in general seems to have known going in that it was going to be more of a goodwill project than a potential blockbuster, the equivalent of a normal studio funding some auteur’s pet project in hopes of winning an Oscar. To their credit the marketers did come up with a fairly clever use for the film: rather than giving it a wide release they instead toured it to IMAX theaters, which at this time were still at that stage where they were almost entirely being used to show science and nature documentaries rather than “real movies.” This was a good way to make the film look like an investment in future distribution models rather than an indulgent money pit and was also kind of in keeping with Walt Disney’s original vision of Fantasia as a film that would tour the country and show off new theatrical technology. Between the IMAX release and an eventual wide release the film was able to eke out a $90 million gross worldwide, which would seem to cover its $80 million dollar budget, which is a low profit by Disney standards but was probably a better outcome than Eisner originally envisioned. There hasn’t been another Fantasia since the release of Fantasia 2000 (unless you want to count that weird Xbox Kinect game) but I do think there’s room for one. Disney is on another upswing and golden ages at that company do usually come packaged with Fantasia movies and it would be interesting to see what one would look like done entirely with the computer animation of today. ***1/2 out of Five
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Post by Neverending on Jun 20, 2017 14:12:42 GMT -5
I watched Fantasia 2000 in IMAX as part of a school field trip. The Gershwin one and Sorcerer's Apprentice are the two I recall enjoying. Might still have a poster from the screening in a cabinet or closet somewhere.
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Post by Dracula on Jun 27, 2017 19:59:10 GMT -5
Dinosaur (2000)
If you ask John Lasseter he’d tell you that using computer animation had very little to do with the success of Pixar and that the main reason for their success was simply that they told quality stories. There’s some truth to that, Pixar certainly wouldn’t have had anywhere near the success it had without quality storytelling, but the fact that they were working in a different animation medium than Disney was essential to their success. During the late 90s there was something of a gold rush to see what studios could get in on the fortune that Renaissance era Disney had proved that animated movies could earn. Many of these studios did this by making traditionally animated movies and while a couple of good movies like The Iron Giant were made because of this most of them were lame me-too ripoffs of what Disney was doing like The Road to El Dorado, Anastasia, and Quest for Camelot. The fact that Pixar was working in a completely different format from Disney made them stand out and compete in a more indirect manner. Additionally it allowed Disney (a company that tends to throw money at their problems) to view Pixar as a partner and potential future acquisition rather than as a competitor. Presumably Disney thought that traditional animation and computer animation were going to co-exist for the a long time and that the two companies would be the industry leaders in these two different mediums and could simply co-exist, but they did remain two separate companies and Disney could not afford to have all their eggs in the Pixar basket when it came to computer animation. One of their backup plans was a company called Dream Quest Images which Disney bought and renamed The Secret Lab. Dream Quest had actually been a visual effects company that had done some cutting edge CGI work for movies like Total Recall and The Abyss before they were bought by Disney in 1996 with the intention that they could essentially make a movie that consisted entirely of the CGI they were using for special effects. The one feature film they made was an oddity called Dinosaur, which only bore the Disney logo when it was released and seems to have been accepted into the Disney canon despite not fitting in with the rest of their films very well at all. The film was actually made using a unique technique, one which doesn’t really seem to have been used elsewhere, where they actually used live action nature footage and used that as their backgrounds and then added in all the talking dinosaurs over it. This does give the film a distinct look from what Pixar was doing at the time as they were aiming for photorealism in a way that Pixar wasn’t which was probably a smart move in order to differentiate it from the competition but also gave the film quite a tough challenge. I will say, the computer graphics here weren’t quite as unwatchably dated as I expected them to be. Make no mistake, they look old and are by no means impressive anymore but they didn’t burn my eyes with their ugliness and compared to some of Pixar’s output from around this time they were at least competitive. This movie’s problems really have less to do with the technology behind it so much as its general emptiness in every other regard. The story here is a total cliché: chosen one raised away from his people goes on a reluctant journey and proves to be more resourceful than he appears and eventually stands up to the stubborn forces in the world and saves the day. It’s the same old shit and it hardly deviates from the formula. What’s more the characters that populate the movie are incredibly boring. As I write this it’s been all of two days since I saw the movie and I can’t recall the name of a single one of the characters and outside of some very superficial descriptors like “compassionate hero dinosaur” or “comic relief monkey” or “stubborn older leader” or “girl dinosaur” I can’t really say there’s much to any of them. The film’s dialogue also ranges from “boring as dishwater” to “super awkward” and any of the film’s occasional attempts at comedy or excitement fall completely flat. It’s just a completely unremarkable movie outside of the tech that it was clearly intended to show off and now that this tech is more of a historical curio than a mind-blowing showcase there really isn’t a whole lot left to like about it. What shocked me most about the movie was learning that it actually made money. Given that it hardly seemed like a sensation back in 2000 and given that the movie is practically forgotten today I always just assumed that it had bombed when it released but that wasn’t the case. Somehow the movie actually made $137 million dollars upon release, which is actually more than a lot of the traditionally animated movies that Disney put out in the late 90s did and it went on to earn another $200 million internationally. Dinosaurs apparently do a whole lot to sell movie tickets because nothing else about this movie makes me think it would strike that much of a chord. It seems that the people at Disney also managed to peg the film’s apparent success on a lucky break more than a sign that it was what audiences wanted from Disney as “The Secret Lab” was not asked to make another movie afterwards and Disney would not attempt to make another fully CGI movie again for another five years. That’s probably for the best because I don’t know that this technology and style would translate to very many other subjects. Today the film feels almost like an orphan of sorts. It doesn’t really feel like a Disney movie at all, or like a Pixar movie, or like a Dreamworks movie. It’s just this strange abandoned experiment that everyone involved moved on from quickly. *1/2 out of Five
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Post by EdReedFan20 on Jun 28, 2017 16:33:04 GMT -5
I think the movie's just fine, but I absolutely love the opening sequence (pre title screen) and the music accompanying it. For that scene alone, I wish there was a way to see the movie in 3D.
Neat thing is, in 1999, attached to movies such as Toy Story 2 (as well as the Tarzan VHS?), they used that scene as a special extended trailer.
This is that trailer:
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jun 28, 2017 17:16:36 GMT -5
I remember that trailer being nearly everywhere when this movie was coming out. So much so to the point where it started to get on my nerves after a while. Also, I remember seeing Toy Story 2 in theaters and the trailer was before it. Halfway through, someone in the audience just shouted, "Who cares? Get to Toy Story 2!"
I saw the movie after it came out on DVD a year or two later and thought it was pretty dumb.
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Post by Dracula on Jun 28, 2017 17:25:50 GMT -5
The trailer is sort of false advertising though. It promises all these lush landscapes but in the movie the asteroid hits something like ten minutes later and the rest of the movie is barren deserts.
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Post by Dracula on Jul 2, 2017 10:34:28 GMT -5
The Emperor’s New Groove (2000)
The third of the three movies that Disney put out in the year 2000 was the film that seemed to most closely adhere to what Disney has traditionally been. That movie, The Emperor’s New Groove, was a traditionally animated film set in the one continent that Disney hadn’t already crossed off during the Disney Renaissance. One would have thought it was the safest bet of the three but it had this weird title and premise and its trailers had this odd comedic tone. What audiences didn’t know is that this title and that tone was in fact the result of a very troubled production and a wide range of compromises that were made between the film’s inception and the final product. We know a number of unflattering details about this production because Disney foolishly allowed filmmaker Trudie Styler film an outside “making of” as part of a deal to sign her husband Sting to do the music for the film (you know, because he was next on their list of lame 90s adult contemporary stars to work with). This documentary has been suppressed for years but recently leaked online and it’s become somewhat difficult to really separate the film that was actually made from what could have been. The film was originally conceived by Roger Allers and Matthew Jacobs, the team behind The Lion King, and was originally meant to be an epic story called Kingdom of the Sun which would do something of a riff on “The Prince and the Pauper” but set in the Incan Empire. This version of the film actually got pretty deep into production; 25% of it had been animated and Sting had written a number of songs for it that were tied into that original plot. However, after the failure of Pocahontas and The Hunchback of Notre Dame Michael Eisner had grown weary of Disney animated films that were getting too ambitious and too serious and demanded that the project be reworked as something lighter and funnier. Roger Allers left, leaving the film in the hands of another co-director that had been brought in named Mark Dindal and by all accounts Disney would have just shut down production had they not already spent $30 million and lined up promotional deals with McDonalds and Coca Cola. After a two week brainstorming session the film was reworked, retitled, and re-imagined into what it would eventually become. The final product is a strange little Disney movie, one that most closely resembles 1997’s Hercules but with a little less swagger and with a less clear vision of what it wants to be in general. The film is set in the Incan empire, which should make for a very interesting backdrop but it ends up being completely incidental to the actual movie. I’m no expert but I doubt the Incan government worked anything like this and I’m pretty sure the story isn’t derived in any way from actual Incan legend or folklore. Rather it seems like they just picked a kingdom that Disney hadn’t worked with and tried to paint it on top of a generic random story they came up with. You can tell that someone involved did do some research into Incan costume and architecture, but it still seems like quite a waste. Beyond that we’re just left with an extremely silly movie. It’s a movie that’s filled with comedic anachronisms and fourth wall breaks, which are certainly not the kind of comedy I like in my family movies but the comedy here seems uniquely unfunny and kind of immature. It’s the kind of movie where the villain goes to their lair by getting on a 20th Century roller coaster complete with safety bar and then suddenly changes into a lab coat despite being set in 15th century Peru. In many ways it doesn’t feel like a theatrically released Disney movie so much as some kind of late 90s Cartoon Network series. There are a couple of saving graces here, particularly the voice cast, which does its best to work with the material they’re given. David Spade, an actor who rarely does his best work in movies, is kind of perfect in the role of the arrogant and egotistical emperor and I like how the film managed to make this character stay douchey for as long as it does. A 73 year old Eartha Kitt is also pretty amusing as the film’s villainess and manages to turn a pretty routine Jaffar-ripoff character into an enjoyable presence. Her sidekick Kronk, voiced by Patrick Warburton, is apparently also a fan favorite as well but I can’t say he stood out too much for me outside of being a standard idiot henchman. Outside of that and the occasional successful bits of cleverness there’s just not a lot here. Contemplating the film’s troubled production and how they were able to cobble it together out of the wreckage of that is in many ways more interesting than the actual movie. It’s not a movie that exudes terribleness necessarily but it’s a movie that feels uniquely un-Disney-like. It’s not a fairy tale, there’s no music outside of a completely forgettable Sting song over the credits, the comedy torpedoes any of that epic adventure feel that you come to Disney for. In many ways it feels more like what we would all start to expect out of Dreamworks when they ascended. That’s not a compliment. ** out of Four
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Post by Neverending on Jul 2, 2017 13:42:46 GMT -5
And yet... it spawned one of Disney's most successful TV shows of the era.
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Post by thebtskink on Jul 2, 2017 17:11:02 GMT -5
Oh man, I'm not sure I could disagree more. It's my favorite of that era from Disney. The comedic tone is a nice step away from the other work they were putting out at the time.
I've seen that documentary, and firmly believe the original plan for the movie would've sucked ass.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 2, 2017 18:05:17 GMT -5
Oh man, I'm not sure I could disagree more. It's my favorite of that era from Disney. The comedic tone is a nice step away from the other work they were putting out at the time. I've seen that documentary, and firmly believe the original plan for the movie would've sucked ass. It works as a pilot to the TV show They also did Kronk's New Groove
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Post by Fanible on Jul 2, 2017 19:49:44 GMT -5
It's definitely one of the few Disney animated movies I consistently rewatch from time to time. It's pretty damn funny. I assumed, at the time, that it was Disney taking a page out of Pixar's book. That they realized that their movies don't always have to have dour parts and that actually more people will like them if they're just simply fun and funny throughout, which this movie definitely is. The bad guys are not outright evil, by any means. They're just silly.
It's also a movie that benefits from being seen with other people.
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Post by Deexan on Jul 2, 2017 21:58:31 GMT -5
Did Drac review All Dogs Go To Heaven yet?
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Post by Dracula on Jul 2, 2017 22:03:49 GMT -5
Did Drac review All Dogs Go To Heaven yet? That ain't Disney, it's Don Bluth.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 2, 2017 22:15:32 GMT -5
Did Drac review All Dogs Go To Heaven yet? He'll do it after he reviews Watership Down.
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Post by Dracula on Jul 7, 2017 20:21:20 GMT -5
Atlantis: The Lost Empire (2001)
After the trilogy of weird experiments that they put out in the year 2000 Disney decided to get back on track in 2001 and in many ways pick up from where they left off with 1999’s Tarzan in moving the company into a less musical more boy targeted movies that used pulp literature as a basis rather than fairy tales. It’s an approach a direction that I take a particular interest in because it is in many ways it’s exactly what I would have wanted from a Disney movie at a certain age. As I’ve described in previous entries I was the kid who self-consciously decided he outgrew Disney and dismissed them as movies for babies at a pretty young age. Many of the things that defined the Disney movie like the talking animals, the songs, the fairy tale trappings, and if I’m being honest the “girlyness” were all the things that made Disney completely uncool to the likes of me as I started to discover the joys of “adult” movies like Star Wars and the like. In many ways Atlantis: The Lost Empire seems like it was meant to bring the kids like me back on board: it wasn’t a musical, it had action scenes in it (albeit of a very PG nature), there were no talking animals at all, and it was even rooted in science fiction. It would have been the perfect movie to keep a ten year old me in the Disney sphere for a little longer… unfortunately it didn’t come out when I was ten, it came out when I was thirteen and by then I really was past the point of no return when it came to Disney at that age. Regardless of who the target audience was Atlantis: The Lost Empire did mark a big leap in ambition for Disney and was bold in a number of ways. It was the first time Disney was making a movie in the widescreen aspect ratio since The Black Cauldron and it was the first 2D animated Disney movie to be rated PG since… The Black Cauldron… I guess in many ways it is comparable to The Black Cauldron in the way it moves out of Disney’s usual comfort zone and tries to be a little cooler and skew a little older. All told the movie is a lot more successful in its vision than that 1985 disaster. While it does use quite a bit of CGI for certain effects it does very much remain an effort in 2D animation and manages to blend its CG effects with its rather stylized 2D material a lot better than a lot of Disney’s previous efforts did. The film actually employs the signature art style of Mike Mignola, the comic book illustrator who created Hellboy, and all of the characters in it manage to just hit that sweet spot between realistic human forms and cartoony caricature and they generally do look pretty dynamic and interesting. The ensemble in the film is perhaps a bit too large but in general the film does a pretty good job of making each of the characters a neat little characteristic to make them stand out as colorful mercenaries. Where the film starts to lose out is in the story, which is never terrible but is also not anywhere near as original and interesting as its makers maybe seem to think it is. As a work of science fiction we’ve seen films like this before in a number of places but the film it very specifically resembles is the 1994 Roland Emmerich movie Stargate, which was also about a blonde bespectacled linguist who travels with a team of gun toting soldiers to an alien civilization that kind of resembles past human civilization and sparks a relationship with a woman from that civilization. I don’t know that the makers of this were consciously biting that movie but the similarities are hard to ignore and also, if you’re going to rip something out why the hell would it be that movie? On top of that the movie never quite works once it finally gets to Atlantis itself. The movie expects you to constantly be in awe of this strange alien civilization but what you’re seeing is never really as interesting as the movie seems to think it is. Atlantis just seems like this weird hodgepodge of Greek and tribal elements and their society doesn’t really seem to have an overly original set of traits and mores. Still, the movie does pick up a bit towards the end and I actually was just a little bit surprised when it was revealed that Milo’s compatriots really were going to be the film’s main antagonists rather than some giant mystical monster or something and the battle scene towards the end was pretty neat all told. This one is kind of hard to call. On one hand it’s the Disney movie that does everything the 9-11 year old me thought he wanted out of Disney but it also kind of reveals exactly why Disney hasn’t made more of a habit of making movies like that. They don’t really appeal to the kids who are younger than that age range and the older kids that would appreciate it are right on the cusp of graduating to “real” action movies. That’s probably even more true today than it was in 2001 what with all the Marvel movies and Star Wars movies that the kids of today have access to (and no, it’s not a coincidence that the Disney corporation now owns both of those franchises). The potential audience is just so damn narrow and the fact that the Disney name is so heavily associated with movies for younger children you’re really fighting an uphill battle to get them on board as well. If this had come out one year earlier and maybe had the Touchstone logo on it instead of the Disney logo I very well might have gone to see it, in fact I did just that with a fairly comparable animated science fiction movie called Titan A.E. the previous year. But unlike twelve year old me, thirteen year old me wasn’t going to get over myself and see something like this, especially with the Disney logo on it. I can’t really say that thirteen year old me was missing out on too much by being stubborn either frankly, this is a cool little movie but in final analysis it’s kind of style over substance. There’s fun to be had with it but it’s no classic adventure film and people looking for a cool sci-fi action movie would be better served elsewhere. ***1/2 out of Five
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Post by Wyldstaar on Jul 7, 2017 22:38:45 GMT -5
"We are defenders of the night! We are Batman! uh, I mean Gargoyles!"
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Post by Neverending on Jul 7, 2017 22:41:40 GMT -5
"We are defenders of the night! We are Batman! uh, I mean Gargoyles!" You're thinking of Darkwing Duck
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Post by Dracula on Jul 11, 2017 21:33:51 GMT -5
Lilo & Stitch (2002)
I’ve noticed throughout this little journey through Disney’s history that they have kind of a long tradition of trying to sort of get their bearings back by putting together a quick, unpretentious, and relatively cheap project as a sort of break from their other more expensive and risky projects. The most obvious example of this was Dumbo but 101 Dalmatians and to some extent Hercules both also had kind of similar vibes in their productions. It was also the model of production that Michael Eisner ordered directors Chris Sanders and Dean DeBlois to adopt on the studio’s next project and they took these marching orders and ran with them. The resulting film is… interesting. Like a lot of the movies of this era it doesn’t seem terribly Disney-like. There are no songs aside from some Elvis recordings that pop up occasionally for some reason, it’s set in a contemporary setting (or maybe the 50s, I’m not sure), and the movie is basically a comedy about an alien befriending a child ala E.T.: The Extra Terrestrial. When the directors were instructed to make a film like Dumbo they clearly took it to heart as they actually adopted one of that film’s stylistic traits. The film actually employs watercolors for its backgrounds, which was a technique used on Dumbo and Bambi but was phased out of the Disney process for being cost prohibitive. I don’t know that there’s anything about this project in particular that would have called for this particular technique, but it does look kind of neat. The animation in the foreground is much more traditional and I can’t say that I was all that enthused by it. There’s nothing “bad” about the film’s look but it is exceedingly average. I’m beginning to wonder if part of what killed traditional animation is that it became increasingly easy for animation to thrive on television and it became hard to differentiate between the animation in theaters and the animation on Saturday Morning Cartoons. The movie is pretty clearly intended to be more overtly comedic than the average Disney movie but takes a slightly different approach to it than other “funny” Disney flicks like Hercules and The Emperor’s New Groove in that it trades in absurdism more than irreverence. A lot of the space/alien society elements have a touch of Douglas Adams to them and the film also sort of revels in having characters that you would not normally see in Disney films. As talking animals go Stitch is not what you’d call “adorable” and Lilo is very decidedly not a princess. The film is also interested in creating an interesting family dynamic for Lilo by contriving a situation where both of Lilo’s parents are dead and her 18-20 year old sister is forced to adopt her, which is probably kind of a G-rated work-around so that they can have a young single mother without being accused of teaching America’s youth about teen pregnancy. That dysfunctional family setup is probably the strongest aspect of the film and I like that the film doesn’t sugarcoat how frustrating that is for the older sister. Lilo & Stich is a hard movie to talk about in that it’s far from being particularly good but there isn’t really anything notably bad about it either, it’s just this sort of forgettable mediocrity. The movie was actually pretty well received at the time. It got an 86% on Rotten Tomatoes and earned close to $150 million at the box office, probably making it the last 2D animated movie that Disney probably viewed as a success story, but time has not been terribly kind to it. Finding Nemo came out the next year and pretty firmly established that Pixar was running things and that weird little traditionally animated movies with irreverent advertising campaigns were not going to be enough to overtake them. Since then Lilo & Stich hasn’t exactly been forgotten but it certainly isn’t a movie that much of anybody cares about anymore. The film’s promotional poster depicting classic Disney characters from the past looking at Stich in disgust and confusion, which was meant as a witty little joke, turned out to be pretty apropos because this movie certainly doesn’t fit too well into Disney’s usual legacy. *** out of Five
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Post by Neverending on Jul 12, 2017 6:27:10 GMT -5
Lilo & Stitch spawned a successful television series and several direct-to-video sequels. The PG Cooper generation loves it.
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Post by Dracula on Jul 12, 2017 12:29:14 GMT -5
Lilo & Stitch spawned a successful television series and several direct-to-video sequels. The PG Cooper generation loves it. Were there any Disney movies that didn't spawn cartoons and direct to video sequels?
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Post by PG Cooper on Jul 12, 2017 14:27:23 GMT -5
Me personally, I agree with most of your thoughts in this part of your series thus far. That said, Emperor's New Groove and Lilo and Stitch are fondly thought of by a lot of people my age and younger. Lilo and Stitch in particular definitely has a Tumblr following. I should also say as a kid I dug both. I thought Emperor's New Groove was really funny and the sci-fi elements of Lilo and Stitch appealed to my eight year old self. Granted, neither were exactly favourites but I think I was starting to distance myself from Disney around this time.
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Post by thebtskink on Jul 12, 2017 15:03:25 GMT -5
Lilo & Stitch spawned a successful television series and several direct-to-video sequels. The PG Cooper generation loves it. PG Cooper youth jokes, like PG Cooper, will never get old.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 12, 2017 17:24:54 GMT -5
Lilo & Stitch spawned a successful television series and several direct-to-video sequels. The PG Cooper generation loves it. Were there any Disney movies that didn't spawn cartoons and direct to video sequels? They all got spin-offs, even the ones they had no rights too.
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Post by PG Cooper on Jul 12, 2017 21:27:39 GMT -5
Lilo & Stitch spawned a successful television series and several direct-to-video sequels. The PG Cooper generation loves it. PG Cooper youth jokes, like PG Cooper, will never get old. The only thing that makes me angrier than this comment is the fact that I laughed.
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