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Post by Doomsday on Mar 23, 2016 13:44:46 GMT -5
It definitely seems like the kind of comedy movie I enjoy the most, the ones where you notice something different every single time.
Now that Daredevil season 2 is done I can hopefully watch the next movie in the next couple days.
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Post by Doomsday on Jun 3, 2016 18:06:07 GMT -5
Miller's Crossing (1990)
View count: Third timeThe third film by Joel and Ethan Coen isn't a crime thriller nor is it an offbeat comedy like their first two efforts. Instead they dive into a third genre that very much suits their talents for razor sharp dialogue and almost comical violence. In Miller's Crossing, the Coens craft a film that centers on a character playing one gang against the other in a Yojimbo-like narrative. I didn't remember much when I turned this on as I hadn't watched it in probably five years. The only lingering thoughts were that I found it dry and interesting but not quite relatable. This time however I think I was able to appreciate it a little more. The movie isn't exactly the deepest or most thought-provoking film. Gabriel Byrne plays Tom, the right hand man of tough gangster Leo, played by Albert Finney. Marcia Gay Harden is Verna, Leo's lady whom Tom is seeing on the side. When rival gangster Johnny Caspar tells Leo he wants to kill Verna's brother Bernie for sabotaging his books a power struggle erupts between the two gangs with Tom stuck in the middle. Aside from a pretty basic story what really makes the movie shine is how it feels. Aside from the actors, the main star of the movie is the dialogue. It's drenched in old-time witticisms, every character seems like a throwback to the 1930s gangster archetypes and it sets itself up to be a very effective noir film. I wouldn't call it a thriller because much of the movie is a slow burn however watching Byrne play each side and each character with varying degrees of success makes the movie seem so effortless. I'm not terribly familiar with Byrne's work outside of The Usual Suspects and his brief role in Vikings however his casting here as a cool, steel-hearted Irish mobster fit this movie to a T. He's especially effective when juxtaposed to Finney's Leo, a hot headed and pudgy boss who's an 'artist' with a tommy gun. Ultimately Miller's Crossing is a movie that you can tell was crafted not only to make a good movie but to make one worthy of its genre, the characters it presents and the time period in which it takes place. Maybe it was looking at it through more experienced eyes, maybe it was because I knew a little of what to expect but I was able to appreciate Miller's Crossing much more this time around than previously. I'll get into it more as I delve into the Coen filmography but it's amazing how they seem to master a genre when they put their touch onto it. It would be hard to call Miller's Crossing a masterpiece considering how some of the all-time great films are gangster movies but that might be an unfair comparison. It is however a fine entry into the genre and from a mainstream point of view is unfairly overlooked nowadays.
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Post by Doomsday on Jun 17, 2016 15:02:42 GMT -5
Barton Fink (1991)
View count: First timeFrom the way I see it, Barton Fink is where the Coen Bros. finally reached full-Coen. It's a movie rich with imagery, dialogue, foreshadowing and callbacks. It has off-beat characters in the extreme and, what is probably the Coens signature trait, it's near impossible to figure whom this movie was meant to play to. At the same time, it won the Palme d'Or at the Cannes film festival making the Coens a critical force to be reckoned with. Barton Fink is a thought-provoking, peculiar movie that like Raising Arizona would have been a strange movie to watch if you were a casual moviegoer but like almost all Coen films it seems to be a film that is packed with nuances and themes that will reveal themselves upon repeat viewings. John Tuturro, coming off a solid performance as the slimy Bernie in Miller's Crossing, plays the titular Barton. Having written a hit play in New York he's offered a contract to come out to Hollywood and start working on a screenplay for a wrestling movie. He moves into an old, low-rent hotel so he can get away from the bustle of show business, but soon the distractions and strange happenings start eating away at his ability to focus on his work. Other strong performances are given by John Goodman as Charlie, an insurance salesman with a dark history, and character actor Michael Lerner in an Oscar-nominated performance. For my first watch one thing really spoke to me. As an aspiring writer (who isn't really?) it's easy and equally scary to recognize what Barton has to endure. After receiving glowing praise for a play written from his heart he's summoned to Hollywood and told to cast his passion aside. 'It's a wrestling picture' is what he's told, something that doesn't warrant a lot of feeling. Seeing the industrial machine disguised as an art form attempt to sink its claws into a person whose sole desire is to reach people and speak to them has a dramatic, almost Shakespearean theme to it as we know that it could very well end in defeat and disappointment. For Barton, he's told that his triumphant work that's from his heart is garbage, nothing that anyone would want to see. He finds himself chained to his oar in a system that people of his nature come to despise. For Barton, having his voice go unheard seems to be worse than everything else going on around him. I'll admit it took a little time to absorb Barton Fink. On the surface it's a movie about movies, about writing, about enduring what the world throws at you. Like all of the other Coen movies, it's a movie you can appreciate but I'm sure I'll absorb more after a few more sit-throughs which I'm sure will follow shortly.
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Post by PG Cooper on Jun 17, 2016 16:33:05 GMT -5
What I like is that while Barton is the struggling artist type the Coens avoid making him easily sympathetic. The dude's actually kind of an asshole. You can draw a similar comparison to Llewyn Davis.
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Post by Doomsday on Jun 17, 2016 17:33:21 GMT -5
That's what I like best about Llewyn Davis. The whole time you think you should feel sorry for the guy, he doesn't have a place to live or a guy doesn't like his work, but he's a loser who makes bad decisions.
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Post by Neverending on Jun 18, 2016 1:29:25 GMT -5
Back in the early days of ComingSoon, back when we had more than 5 members, I created a thread on Barton Fink and everyone seemed to focus on the hell theme. The hotel is definitely supposed to represent hell and John Goodman is definitely a spiritual being. But as Doomsday said, once you allow the movie to be digested, it really ain't too complicated. It's just a big fuck you to Hollywood. The script was supposedly written when the Coens were having writers block on Miller's Crossing, a mid-budget gangster film, so they probably had all sorts of frustrations they let out.
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Post by Jibbs on Jun 18, 2016 10:47:06 GMT -5
I watched an old Simpsons episode last night where a bunch of the kids went to see it. In theaters.
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Post by thebtskink on Jun 18, 2016 12:49:35 GMT -5
In my mind I always thought Barton Fink was that movie about the kid with the weird shaped head and glasses
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jun 18, 2016 13:55:07 GMT -5
I really liked Barton Fink a lot and have been meaning to re-watch it, but yeah, the Hell stuff stands out a lot when I think back on it.
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Post by Neverending on Jun 18, 2016 17:22:22 GMT -5
I really liked Barton Fink a lot and have been meaning to re-watch it, but yeah, the Hell stuff stands out a lot when I think back on it. What always stood out to me was that Barton never wanted to listen to John Goodman's stories.
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Post by PG Cooper on Jun 19, 2016 20:50:35 GMT -5
I really liked Barton Fink a lot and have been meaning to re-watch it, but yeah, the Hell stuff stands out a lot when I think back on it. What always stood out to me was that Barton never wanted to listen to John Goodman's stories. Barton thinks he's better than everyone else because he's an artist.
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Post by Doomsday on Jun 21, 2016 13:52:15 GMT -5
The Hudsucker Proxy (1994)
View count: Second timeI'm aware that a few people on these boards aren't the biggest fans of The Hudsucker Proxy but sue me, I enjoy it. It's typical Coen in that it's hard to nail down exactly what kind of movie it is. It's a comedy without many jokes, it's a screwball mish-mash with some stock characters but also with a weird supernatural undertone. As always, it's hard to picture who this movie would be made for outside of general 'Coen Bros. fans.' But it's also an enjoyable movie with a few laugh out loud moments ('you lied to me...you, a Muncie girl!') Tim Robbins plays Norville Barnes, a new face in the big city looking to strike it rich. He takes an entry level job in the mailroom of Hudsucker Industries where he's quickly faced with the daunting task of delivering a dreaded Blue Letter to Hudsucker executive Sidney Mussburger (Paul Newman). Unbeknownst to Norville is that the founder of the company, Waring Hudsucker, recently flung himself out of the window and his shares are now going public. Mussburger's plan is to install a president so incompetent, so foolish that the shares plummet to rock bottom where the board will simply buy them cheap and rebuild the company. That's where Norville comes in as he is quickly named the president of the company. The new appointment quickly draws the attention of newspaper dame Amy Archer played by Jennifer Jason Leigh doing her best Katharine Hepburn/Rosalind Russell impression. I get it, it's a comedy without the punchlines or even the jokes. It's definitely a throwback to the 1930s and 40s His Girl Friday type films which begs the question of why it needed to be made in the first place. Is there an audience of old Hollywood throwbacks? Probably not but it's not a movie that demands an audience of that type. It's a movie that I find enjoyable and one that I liked better the second time around. In addition to the acting that's really about all the praise that I can give it because I can also understand reservations that other people might have that aren't used to the Coen style. Maybe the only thing that didn't really sit well with me was the somewhat out of place narration and deus ex machina ending. Again, par for the course but it didn't seem to fit in with what the rest of the movie was trying to do. It was almost a little too zany in a movie that was already pretty zany. Is The Hudsucker Proxy the best work that the Coens have produced? No, but it's one that will make you feel glad that you watched it when it's over.
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Post by Neverending on Jun 21, 2016 15:09:43 GMT -5
I'm aware that a few people on these boards aren't the biggest fans of The Hudsucker Proxy but sue me, I enjoy it. I'm probably the only person that LOVES this movie. It's very... Looney Tunes. If you liked The Mask, also released in 1994, you'll probably like this too. It has that 1940's cartoon humor. Yeah. It's for, you know, for kids.
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Post by Doomsday on Jun 21, 2016 15:16:37 GMT -5
Heh, nice!
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jun 21, 2016 16:43:07 GMT -5
I like The Mask just fine, but honestly didn't care for Hudsucker Proxy. In fact, I tend to like the Coens' dramas more than their comedies.
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Post by Deexan on Jun 21, 2016 17:45:15 GMT -5
I'm a big fan.
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Post by Jibbs on Jun 21, 2016 18:21:52 GMT -5
You know; for kids.
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Post by Deexan on Jun 21, 2016 18:40:08 GMT -5
Yeah, that's a bizarre statement.
Unless he means it's for the kid inside all of us, in which case he's spot on.
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Post by Dracula on Jun 22, 2016 6:32:03 GMT -5
I find Hudsucker slightly enjoyable, but when compared to the rest of the Coen Brothers' work it's pretty weak and leans into some of their more annoying instincts.
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Post by PG Cooper on Jun 22, 2016 11:06:39 GMT -5
My review from last month:
The Hudsucker Proxy is a comedy from the Coen Brothers set in the 1950s about Norville Barnes (Tim Robbins), a simple man from Indiana who is made President of the Hudsucker company. Nnorville has all sorts of ambitions but what he doesn't know is he's only being made president so stock will plummet and the board of directors can buy their shares back for next to nothing. Jennifer Jason Leigh also stars as a fast-talking, tough as nails reporter who goes undercover to investigate Barnes.
The film is basically a cross between the screwball comedies of the 30s and 40s and the Frank Capra pictures of the same era where an idealistic and simple man fights to preserve his values in the face of indifference and compromise. I don't think the film really works as either though. The Capra-esque plot is undercut by the film's deep sense of cynicism. The immaculate and stylish sets dwarf everything else and the characters and plots feel insincere. The movie is lacking in heart, as they say; an element essential for a Frank Capra style story. The screwball comedy holds up a bit better thanks to some fun dialogue and Jennifer Jason Leigh's flawless emulation of characters played by people like Rosalind Russell and Katharine Hepburn, but the film is liking a certain anarchic tone. The film also just isn't that funny. It certainly has its moments, like the montage when Norville is made president and some of the dialogue, but I rarely actually laughed.
In spite of my criticisms, I really do admire the hell out of this movie. The art direction is phenomenal and reminded be a lot of the excellent work on Tim Burton's Batman films. The cast is also quite fun, particularly the aforementioned Jennifer Jason Leigh who totally owns her part. It's a film where I can see the talents of the Coens coming through even though I don't think it really works. It's a tough film to call and I might need to revisit this (Coen comedies often play better a second time) but for now we'll call my reaction mixed.
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Post by Doomsday on Jul 14, 2016 19:10:16 GMT -5
Fargo (1996)
View count: Several timesOne of my favorite scenes in Fargo is when the two kidnappers are driving down a dark, deserted highway. In a brutal turn of events they murder a police officer and two innocent passers-by. In a twist of morbid, black humor the kidnappers watch the car drive by them, the fat, pudgy driver looking at them in horror. In my own personal way it's a nice reflection of the movie; a kidnapping in the middle of nowhere that triggers violent consequences for the affable characters that inhabit the small, snowy town. Fargo is the movie that you could say put the Coens on the commercial map. It was nominated for a slew of Oscars, winning Best Actress for Frances McDormand/Mrs. Joel Coen as well as Best Original Screenplay for Joel and Ethan. The rest of the cast delivers amazing performances, from the goofy William H. Macy to chilling Peter Stormare. The story is so small and centralized but the Coens again focus on a singular event that makes the whole story unravel. Between scenes of graphic and unflinching violence are funny and almost random quips and scenes ('Prowler needs a jump!', 'So you were having sex with a little fella?'). I can imagine seeing this movie in a theater in 1996 and wondering what the point of it all is especially when you had other more mainstream romance/comedies like Jerry Maguire and bloated historical dramas like The English Patient to occupy your time and cross off on your awards movies lists. Of those movies this is probably the most rewatchable as it's so well written, the characters so rich and the movie so all-around enjoyable to watch. You could make a solid argument that this is the Coen Bros.' best film which I might agree with depending on my mood and whether I could be convinced that it's better than No Country For Old Men. I love Fargo. It's one of my all-time favorite movies that I can watch literally at any time. The Coens are masters at making films where you notice something new each and every time you watch it and that certainly isn't going to be the last time I say that in this thread.
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Post by thebtskink on Jul 14, 2016 19:43:46 GMT -5
"I'm co-operating here!" is one of my favorite go-to lines.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 14, 2016 21:17:02 GMT -5
Fargo (1996)
View count: Several timesOne of my favorite scenes in Fargo is when the two kidnappers are driving down a dark, deserted highway. In a brutal turn of events they murder a police officer and two innocent passers-by. In a twist of morbid, black humor the kidnappers watch the car drive by them, the fat, pudgy driver looking at them in horror. In my own personal way it's a nice reflection of the movie; a kidnapping in the middle of nowhere that triggers violent consequences for the affable characters that inhabit the small, snowy town. Fargo is the movie that you could say put the Coens on the commercial map. It was nominated for a slew of Oscars, winning Best Actress for Frances McDormand/Mrs. Joel Coen as well as Best Original Screenplay for Joel and Ethan. The rest of the cast delivers amazing performances, from the goofy William H. Macy to chilling Peter Stormare. The story is so small and centralized but the Coens again focus on a singular event that makes the whole story unravel. Between scenes of graphic and unflinching violence are funny and almost random quips and scenes ('Prowler needs a jump!', 'So you were having sex with a little fella?'). I can imagine seeing this movie in a theater in 1996 and wondering what the point of it all is especially when you had other more mainstream romance/comedies like Jerry Maguire and bloated historical dramas like The English Patient to occupy your time and cross off on your awards movies lists. Of those movies this is probably the most rewatchable as it's so well written, the characters so rich and the movie so all-around enjoyable to watch. You could make a solid argument that this is the Coen Bros.' best film which I might agree with depending on my mood and whether I could be convinced that it's better than No Country For Old Men. I love Fargo. It's one of my all-time favorite movies that I can watch literally at any time. The Coens are masters at making films where you notice something new each and every time you watch it and that certainly isn't going to be the last time I say that in this thread.
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Post by Doomsday on Jul 22, 2016 13:56:37 GMT -5
The Big Lebowski (1998)
View count: MillionsI'm usually lukewarm or indifferent when it comes to inexplicably popular or 'cult' movies. I won't use the word 'overrated' because I hate that word and it's overused but many times they don't live up to the reputations that fans bestow upon them. My major exception is The Big Lebowski, my favorite Coen Bros. movie. Not only is it my favorite Coen movie, it's one of my all-time favorite movies and if I were to make a top 5 favorite comedies list it would almost certainly be in the top 3 with Spinal Tap and Dr. Strangelove giving it worthy competition. I assume that there are some pretty passionate Lebowski fans on these boards while others might have only seen it a couple times. Most would say that it's about a guy who gets mixed up in a kidnapping where the kidnappers want to maim him, the husband of the hostage double-crosses him and his incompetent friends make his life miserable. In actuality the movie is much more simple; it's about a guy who just wants to get a new rug. Unfortunately his old rug was 'micturated' on by Wu the 'Chinaman' and Lebowski (aka The Dude) thinks that the millionaire who shares his name owes him one. After all Wu thought he was really peeing on his rug, get it? Among the insanity is maybe the most quotable movie of this generation, one with such subtle humor, such obscure references and callbacks that it's almost impossible to catch everything the first, third or ninth time around. The Coens have so carefully crafted an ingenious, dialogue heavy movie around an absurd, almost infantile premise like only can. It's not something new to them and it's a theme they would play off again yet this might be the best movie they have crafted in that style. It's what makes it enduring and adds to its popularity. I know that some of what I said might seem contradictory. I talk about 'not living up to reputations' yet Lebowski might have one of the biggest, most devout fanbases of any movie in my lifetime. There are dozens of Lebowski-fests every year, screenings take place nationwide and The Dude and Walter might be Bridges' and Goodman's most iconic roles. That's okay, I know Lebowski might not everybody's cup of tea but it's certainly mine. I don't ever expect that I'll go to a Lebowski fest or grow my beard out but it's still a movie I admire and as I've said many times before, it's a movie that gets funnier every time I watch it. Now THAT is a movie that takes talent to make. And if you still don't agree with me?
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Post by Neverending on Jul 22, 2016 16:58:53 GMT -5
Lebowski was my first Coen Bros movie - or at least the first one I paid attention to. I think that's why I prefer their comedies. That was my initial exposure to them. Everyone else, depending on their age, discovered them through Fargo or No Country for Old Men.
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