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Post by PG Cooper on Apr 12, 2020 21:28:36 GMT -5
The Rain People
This is the last film Francis Ford Coppola directed before making The Godfather and one gets the sense that it's the kind of ambiguous character study he might have preferred to make rather than the big Hollywood movies he's (rightfully) famous for. The film opens with a 30-something housewife Natalie (Shirley Knight), who has recently found she's pregnant, leaving her husband to go on a cross-country odyssey with no clear goal in mind. She meets a young former college football player (James Caan) reeling from a traumatic head injury which has left him adrift and disabled. The two ride together on a vague journey from there.
So what we have here is an interesting precursor to second-wave feminist inspired movies like Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore and Kramer vs. Kramer; a movie exploring the unhappiness of the white middle-class American housewife and her struggle to carve out her desires. The movie feels a bit ahead of its time in that regard and I like that Coppola never makes it easy for the audience. We never really meet Natalie's husband and therefore don't have a great sense of what their marriage was like and the extent Natalie's actions might be rash. Moreover, not only does Natalie not have a plan, but the film as a whole doesn't offer any resolution either. There's a heightened moment of violence, and then the film abruptly ends with nothing really solved. And to add to all of this ambiguity, Coppola and Shirley Knight are also not afraid to make Natalie pretty unlikable at points. She's ultimately an empathetic figure, but an at times prickly one which challenges the audience.
The filmmaking throughout is very good, if not as masterful as Coppola's 70s run. Coppola and editor Barry Malkin weave the main-story with flashbacks in a way which is both seamless and quite intense, while the film's detached visual style strongly conveys the sense of alienation which runs through the film. Shirley Knight's performance is also really good and is an effective anchor for the film. There's also some fun hints at where Coppola would go. A brief flashback to Natalie's wedding definitely evokes the energy of The Godfather's opening and there's also the presence of both James Caan and Robert Duvall, both of which are quite good here. Really though, The Rain People more closely resembles something like The Conversation rather than The Godfather; a weird little character study interested in exploring the peculiars without really resolving anything.
So I clearly have a lot of thoughts about The Rain People, but I don't know if I'd quite call it a great movie. Coppola hadn't completed the script before going into production and while I do think that adds an element of spontaneity to the proceedings, it also makes the film feel a bit rambling and not fully thought out. Also, while I compared this to The Conversation, I think that film does a much better job putting forth a moody and ambiguous character study while feeling more complete. Still, The Rain People is a compelling film whose value does stretch beyond being one of Coppola's pre-70s movies. I certainly liked it.
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Post by thebtskink on Apr 12, 2020 22:04:26 GMT -5
Do Twixt next.
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Post by PG Cooper on Apr 12, 2020 22:15:52 GMT -5
Well, I'm delivering some medical supplies to my parents tomorrow. If I see it playing when I'm taking advantage of their cable, I'll give it a whirl.
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Post by thebtskink on Apr 12, 2020 22:21:39 GMT -5
Well, I'm delivering some medical supplies to my parents tomorrow. If I see it playing when I'm taking advantage of their cable, I'll give it a whirl. That was a joke, please don't subject yourself to that movie.
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Post by Neverending on Apr 12, 2020 22:30:28 GMT -5
Well, I'm delivering some medical supplies to my parents tomorrow. If I see it playing when I'm taking advantage of their cable, I'll give it a whirl. That was a joke, please don't subject yourself to that movie. TWIXT (2011)Twixt is about a C-list author named Hall Baltimore (Val Kilmer) who's mostly known for writing horror novels about witches. Then, after the tragic death of his daughter, he loses all his motivation even though he's broke and being pressured by his wife to get back to writing. And during this turbulent time, he ends up in a small town for a book signing and meets a bible thumping sheriff named Bobby LaGrange (Bruce Dern) who wants to collaborate with him on a book inspired by a series of grisly murders that have plagued the town for many years. Hall Baltimore rejects him at first but changes his mind after having vivid dreams where Edgar Allan Poe helps him solve the murders AND write his new book. That may all seem very strange, but the movie is just a metaphor for the writing process. It's very similar to the Coen brother's Barton Fink from two decades earlier. That film survived thanks to heavier commentary and good humor, but Twixt by Francis Ford Coppola, is a bit more straight-forward and not very interesting except for the dream sequences. At this point, it shouldn't be a surprise that Coppola has lost his mojo but I'll give him credit for at least trying to entertain mass audiences again.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Nov 25, 2020 20:49:19 GMT -5
One from the Heart (1981)
This is a film that is generally not widely viewed and yet well known as the beginning of the end of the Coppola from the '70s we all revere. The movie that bankrupted Zoetrope Studios and subsequently "forced" Coppola to direct the ho-hum string of movies in the 1980s and 1990s to pay it all back. The movie that chose to go entirely with sets, miniatures, and do nothing on location at all to both the effect and detriment of the movie. That movie. But now I've finally watched it, and despite some film people being pretty mixed on it (peeking at Letterboxd there are some film aficionados who view the movie as a masterpiece) I can conclusively say that I hated One from the Heart and found it to be an almost total failure of an experiment and a grueling viewing experience that tries the viewer's patience and interest from the opening frame.
One from the Heart is about one couple containing two of the most miserable and unappealing leads you're apt to see in a movie. Hank (Frederic Forrest) just can't take this relationship anymore because... uh... well he said so, so I guess that's why. And Frannie (Teri Garr), well she's also through with the relationship because... uh... well she said so too. In all seriousness though, for all the money and effort that went into the sets, brilliantly showy Vittorio Starraro lighting, and sheer scope of the project it's inexcusable for Coppola to give us such a flop of a central through line for these shallow, dull characters and thus their entire reasoning for pushing the flimsy plot in the direction it goes in the first place. They say they're in love, make love, say "Happy Anniversary!" and then proceed to break up because he wanted to make dinner at home and she wanted to go out. Why filmmakers insist on thinking by plopping us into the downfall of characters we don't know and don't care about without any real pretext will work is beyond me. What follows is the both of them meandering around "Las Vegas" (but really an obvious recreation of the same two blocks of casinos that sometimes works but never can get past its own artificiality) to hushed songs from Tom Waits about love and misery and more bullshit. While doing so, they each bump into lovers, both have sex with their lovers, but both obviously still have feelings for each other and of course will end up together even if none of it makes sense at all. There are no real events that happen, and the routine of seeing these two aimlessly stroll around to these music cues gets irritating very quickly.
Perhaps most surprising is despite the showy colors, big crane shots, and fake wall trick photography that Coppola has clearly painstakingly designed, One from the Heart has no energy, passion, or life. This is billed as a musical, but it really isn't at all. Only a couple of songs are diegetically sung and they both stink, and while the "streets" of Vegas are bustling they don't feel alive at all. None of this is helped by the clear staginess of the film's look (Coppola also has still backdrops of the city that don't implement moving lights to simulate cars, or hotel room lights which adds to the stilted and peculiar nature of the movie) but Coppola wanted to indulge in a sort of poetic, magical realism he sure isn't having fun with anything. You always have to give a filmmaker, especially one with the pedigree of Coppola and coming off the most impressive decade for a filmmaker in cinematic history, some credit for taking risks and experimenting with the medium, and it seems like the positive reviews focus on just that. Its defenders note the lighting, the intricate set design, and the soaring camera movements as signs that this is still the same Coppola from his past four films.
And yet they casually brush off the putrid storytelling and characterizations of the film as if they're only minor issues. They're monumentally bad ones, and Coppola's blithe focus on them is what crushes One from the Heart and solidifies it as the notorious flop that it is. This is one of those frustrating stories about love where the two characters are only not together because they force themselves not to be, don't get back together because again they choose not to be, and then get back together because they finally say okay let's do this thing again. There's no conflict keeping them apart. There's no conflict that draws us in. There's no supporting characters furthering the plot. Hank isn't a chronic gambler. Frannie isn't an exotic dancer trying to change her life. These are cliched Vegas storylines, yes, but at least they're something. All Coppola can muster up is two miserable, toxic people wander around under the bright lights of Vegas and people will care about their plight. Except that no one did, and One from the Heart is a far bigger disaster than even legend could conjure it up as.
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Post by Neverending on Nov 25, 2020 21:09:33 GMT -5
Worse than the Cotten Club? Damn.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Nov 25, 2020 21:22:49 GMT -5
Worse than the Cotten Club? Damn. Cotton Club is insignificant and forgettable, but it never made me angry like One from the Heart did. The first 15 minutes felt like 45. Very dull movie. Very bad Coppola.
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Post by Doomsday on Dec 3, 2020 20:54:05 GMT -5
Now that people are talking about Godfather III again it reminded me, not sure if I mentioned this before but Francis Ford Coppola stopped by the Mandalorian set last year (I wasn't on the show at the time). I believe he was taking a look at the stage for Megalopolis. Not sure if that's a go or whatever since that's been talked about for years and years but if 80 something FFC wants to do that hey why not?
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Post by Neverending on Dec 3, 2020 21:25:21 GMT -5
Now that people are talking about Godfather III again it reminded me, not sure if I mentioned this before but Francis Ford Coppola stopped by the Mandalorian set last year (I wasn't on the show at the time). I believe he was taking a look at the stage for Megalopolis. Not sure if that's a go or whatever since that's been talked about for years and years but if 80 something FFC wants to do that hey why not? He hasn’t made a movie in 10 years. I think he’s done. Not necessarily because of his age, but because I don’t think anyone will fund his movies. Youth Without Youth, Tetro and Twixt didn’t make money nor were they critical hits. Will Megalopolis be “one last great one” or more of the same?
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Post by Dracula on Dec 3, 2020 21:32:16 GMT -5
Now that people are talking about Godfather III again it reminded me, not sure if I mentioned this before but Francis Ford Coppola stopped by the Mandalorian set last year (I wasn't on the show at the time). I believe he was taking a look at the stage for Megalopolis. Not sure if that's a go or whatever since that's been talked about for years and years but if 80 something FFC wants to do that hey why not? He hasn’t made a movie in 10 years. I think he’s done. Not necessarily because of his age, but because I don’t think anyone will fund his movies. Youth Without Youth, Tetro and Twixt didn’t make money nor were they critical hits. Will Megalopolis be “one last great one” or more of the same? I wouldn't say him making it is "likely" exactly, but streaming services have been throwing around money pretty loosely (and unsustainably) lately so I wouldn't say it's impossible.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Dec 3, 2020 21:45:00 GMT -5
I would love to see Coppola make another movie, especially if it's Megalopolis. He can't go out with Twixt. He just can't.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 3, 2020 21:50:02 GMT -5
I would love to see Coppola make another movie, especially if it's Megalopolis. He can't go out with Twixt. He just can't. We can pretend the Rainmaker was his last movie.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Dec 3, 2020 21:51:36 GMT -5
I would love to see Coppola make another movie, especially if it's Megalopolis. He can't go out with Twixt. He just can't. We can pretend the Rainmaker was his last movie. You can pry Jack out of my cold dead hands. Edit: Jack came out before Rainmaker, so I'm good.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 3, 2020 21:53:50 GMT -5
Silver lining, SnoBorderZero. At least Jack wasn't his last movie.
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Post by Doomsday on Dec 3, 2020 21:56:20 GMT -5
I would love to see Coppola make another movie, especially if it's Megalopolis. He can't go out with Twixt. He just can't. Gene Hackman went out with Welcome to Mooseport. Life is funny like that sometimes.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Dec 3, 2020 21:59:10 GMT -5
Sean Connery went out with League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
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